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bidhan40
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Posted on 03-20-07 6:04
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"Talking to media persons in Dhangadhi today, Prachanda said that the beating up of a businessman by Maoist cadres had been blown out of proportions." He also slammed one who runs hotel business by saying hoteliers are. "feudalistic and disgraceful. He also alleged business enterprenuers as royalist who are responsible for current shutdown of business. Did he mean beating of a businessman, extortion is very normal and it should not be taken seriously.
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HoustonTX
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Posted on 03-21-07 9:04
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Two wrongs does not make a RIGHT !! Enough SAID !
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saroj
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Posted on 03-21-07 9:08
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Chana Tarkari, You keep writing about how you don't trust the businessmen. Does it mean you support the Maoists? What do you think is worse? Armed Maoists beating up , extorting money, kidnapping, looting, harassing common unarmed nepali people, creating lawlessness and insecurity in the society and country as a whole? or Businessmen who try to make some money by selling goods and services - some of whom perhaps have had resorted to illegal means to make some money but mostly does not include beating up anyone, use of force, kidnapping? I'd really appreciate if you could answer the above question with either "maoist" or "businessmen". Who is worse?
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 03-21-07 9:21
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Chana Tarkari States"If you want to forget that root cause that I am referring by recalling how these greedy business community supported maoist in one way or another, under the name of threat/security or under the name of smooth business, then you are not truly standing against the unlawful extortion, be it maoist or any other forces." ha ha ha STAND UP TO WHOM ? CHANA !! TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THREATENING YOUR LIFE, FAMILY, YOUR LIVELIHOOD ? WHO DO YOU GOTO CHANA TARKARI ? THE COPS ? HE HE WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO ? GO ARREST THOSE THUGS ? THE COPS MIGHT GET BEAT UP INSTEAD. Tell me one thing Chana if they really are greedy businessmen why the fug would they let anyone extort money from them(does not seem like a characterstics of a greedy businessman). What has prevented these businessmen to ban unlawful bribe and donation or bring them into a transparent system? But they never want to do so. why? Who boosted the morale of begging maoists in the past? We must not forget that unless we don't set up a system to watch all kind of cash-flows through legal and illegal channels, we won't be able to control such forceful extortion. No need to mention here, the business community is the largest resistance in the country to set up such system. For the time being maoist are riding over it, and business community is in the mission of winning public sympathy. WHAT HAS PREVENTED THEM BANNING UNLAWFUL BRIBES AND DONATION ? HE HE YOU LOGIC IS ALL SCREWD UP. THEY ARE TRYING TO CONDUCT A BUSINESS NOT FIX PROBLEMS IN THE LESGILATIVE SYSTEM. ITS IS THE GOVERMENTS JOB TO OVERLOOK SUCH PROBLEMS. NOW WHY WOULD A LOGICAL PERSON LIKE YOU GO BLAME THE BUSINESSMEN FOR INCOMPETENCY OF THE GOVERMNET ? DO U REALLY THINK BUSINESS COMMUNITY LIKES BRIBING GOVT. OFFICIALS ON TOP OF PAYING BHANSAAR AND TAXES ? AS FOR WINING PUBLIC SUPPORT ... HE HE WE SHALL SEE. "Otherwise common citizen were crying against such extortion since long time ago, which was never heard in the past by concerned authorities as seriously as it is being heard now. " YEAH IAM ONE OF THEM. BUT HAVE NEITHER GOVRNMENT OF THE POLITICIAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT THAT IS WHY THEY ARE OUT IN THE STREETS. BECAUSE THE INCOMPETANT PEOPLE RUNNING THE COUNTRY HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
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chanaa_tarkaari
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Posted on 03-21-07 9:23
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Saroj, Answers to your question is already there in previous posts.
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saroj
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Posted on 03-21-07 9:30
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Chana tarkari Your answer only shows how you are used to sidelining the main issues and throwing focus on other topics. Which is what I have been accusing maoists of doing all the time. Why don't you answer my simple question straight for a change if you can.
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Posted on 03-21-07 9:42
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Prachanda should Step Down, as he has not been able to do anyting Good. All the Propogandas, and failing to control his men. Not being able to win nepalis people's faith and who can forget the lives of 14,000+
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chanaa_tarkaari
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Posted on 03-21-07 10:54
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Saroj, I don't know what you are accusing to maoist, but I am accusing them for being responsible to bring extreme order of lawlessness. I am also accusing others who fueled these criminal minded maoists to cross all sort of limitations. I dismiss your accusation of being used to sideline main issue because digging the root cause of any problem is never considered as sidelining as you tell because that surfaces out a broader perspective rather than observing it through a narrow slit as you prefer to do. You can not replicate Bush-language - if you are not with me you are with terrorist - on this regard. I term them dictator-minded people who prefer going for superficial observation rather than a broader perspective. BC, The only difference I see with you is that you consider the business commodity as individual people, but they are not. They and their clubs must exercise their influence to correct problem with the system before getting it too worse to prove them more responsible toward country and society (here, they have failed). Although they are not legislative, you understand they (can) play vital role in setting government policies that affects country's economy, which has direct link with security and good governance as well.
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saroj
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Posted on 03-21-07 10:58
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Chana tarkari why do you have such a problem answering one simple question? What do you think is worse? Armed Maoists beating up , extorting money, kidnapping, looting, harassing common unarmed nepali people, creating lawlessness and insecurity in the society and country as a whole? or Businessmen who try to make some money by selling goods and services - some of whom perhaps have had resorted to illegal means to make some money but mostly does not include beating up anyone, use of force, kidnapping? I'd really appreciate if you could answer the above question with either "maoist" or "businessmen". Who is worse?
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 03-21-07 10:58
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CHANA TARKARI STATES"But my argument is that there is no need to portray the situation as if business tycoon are the messiah to confront against the lawlessness neither is Hari an ordinary individual. To some degree, these are the people who are responsible to boost up maoist attrocities" CHANA I DON'T THINK THE GUYS WHO GOT BEAT UP ARE TRYING TO GET SYMPATHY OR NEITHER IS HE TRYING TO PORTRAY HIMSELF A MESSIAH. THE GUY GOT BEAT UP FOR CRYING OUT LOUD... I DON'T THINK HE IS ASKING FOR YOUR PATHETIC SYMPATHY....HE WANTS JUSTICE AND I WANT JUSTICE TOO. I SURE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE LIKES OF HARI BOOST MAOIST ATROCITIES ? ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT BUSINESSMEN ARE WILLING PAYING THESE EXTORTIONS WHEN THEY ARE BARELY MAKING ENDS MEET ?(thanks to all the Nepal bandh) ? Being aware of malicious intention of business leaders, and being aware that these leaders could end up their protests at any point for their vested interests (no matter whether or not the maoists stop atrocities against common people in the coming days); I support these business leaders until they keep speaking for peace, progress and reiforcing of basic law and order. We will get to see how much honest are these business leaders in the coming days. My gut-feeling says, these business tycoons will soon stop talking against maoist atrocities once they get a good chat and dinner with leaders, to confirm that these tycoons won't be touched by low-class cadres but be dealt directly by higher ranked caders. On the other hand, common citizen who are now in street following them will continue to face maoist atrocities in one way or another MALICIOUS INTENTIONS OF BUSINESS LEADERS FOR STOPING THEIR PROTESTS ? MIND YOU THEY ARE BUSINESSMEN....OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO PROTECT THEIR VESTED INTERESTS..... THEY ARE THERE FOR PROFIT NOT SOCIAL SERVICE. HONEST BUSINESSMEN ? YEAH THEY ARE TAX PAYING ENTREPRENEURS WHO ARE THERE FOR PROFIT. HOW CAN YOU BLAME THEM FOR BRIBE SEEKING GOVT OFFICIALS ? THEY HAVE TO BRING THEIR GOODS AND COMMODITIES IN THE COUNTRY, I MEAN ITS EITHER BRIBE THE OFFICIALS OR LOSE THEIR ENTIRE CURRENT SHIPMENT. IF THEY ARE NOT ORDINARY CITIZENS THAN I DUNNO WHO ARE ? HE HE
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 03-21-07 11:59
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The only difference I see with you is that you consider the business commodity as individual people, but they are not. They and their clubs must exercise their influence to correct problem with the system before getting it too worse to prove them more responsible toward country and society (here, they have failed). Although they are not legislative, you understand they (can) play vital role in setting government policies that affects country's economy, which has direct link with security and good governance as well. Well I was talking about the guy who got beat up(he is an individual person seeking Justice). Them and their clubs must excercise their influence to correct problems ? huh !! How ? You are looking for wrong solutions instead of holding the bribe seeking government officials accountable. THATS WHERE YOUR PROBLEM IS NOT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. Now you want businessmen to be social workers too ? he he How have they failed the society and community ? GOVERNMENT POLICIES ARE SET BY POLITICIANS AND LAWYERS NOT BUSINESS COMMUNITY. ITS NOT THEIR FAULT THAT WE HAVE AN INCOMPTENT GOVERNMENT, FLOUNDERING POLITICIANS, AND POLITICAL PARTY LEADERS.
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chanaa_tarkaari
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Posted on 03-21-07 12:38
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This photo tells what is going to happen next?
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 03-21-07 12:51
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Now that is for us to see ain't it ? I don't know what is going happen in next half 'n hour. You must a psychic then huh !! he he Maybe you should open up a psychic hotline !! ha ha ha
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saroj
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Posted on 03-21-07 12:54
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Maoists cannot make peace with the businessmen because they have to resort to extortion, looting, robbery, harassment in order to make money. Although they might smile to make peace for now, they will begin to target the businessmen again little by little. Then again the businessmen will boil and make another Protest and the cycle continues till either the maoists have completely scared the businessmen group into compliance or the businessmen group rises with their money and stage an all out revolution against the maoists. The question is do we want to wait till the cycle keeps getting repeated again and again? The same cycle that was implemented under the kings rule. These maoists have time and again promised peace but their action is showing that peace is not their priority. They have even lied to the UN weapons inspectors. They have lied to the US embassy regarding false assassination attempt. They have lied to Nepali people regarding fake evidence of royal plan to kill government officials. How much lies are we going to take? Maoists are not to be trusted and they don't deserve any position in Nepali government - with their brutal and savage ways. They should be sent back to the jungle where they came from. Their logics and ways are not suitable for a 21st century civilized government.
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