Am I the only bahun getting tired of anti-bahun sentiments that seem to run rampant among other groups? I don't know even one developed country that is as heterogeneous as Nepal. Homogeneity is one of the key ingredients for a country to develop. It is becoming more and more obvious to me that Nepal will always be a backward cesspool unless we do something about this diversity issue we are facing. The only successful diverse country is the United States. Along with the fact that the puritans who built this country from scratch were a hard working bunch, America has a strong constitution to enforce laws in the country. How many countries can achieve such a feat? The answer is this:nobody can. Afghanistan had a civil war in the past because of their ethnic problem. The Taliban was essentially a Pashtun force. Iraq is now at the brink of a civil war. As we all know, the problem stems from the fact that Sunnis and Shias are not getting along.
Having thus established that historically speaking, there has been no diverse country that has managed to pull itself up its bootstraps, it seems blatantly obvious to me that the best resolution of this quandary would be to split the country into pieces. How much land an ethnic group receives will be commensurate with the population of the ethnic group.
1) Bahuns/Chettris: We get approximately 40% of the land as we make approximately 40% of the population.
2) Sherpas: They can join their Tibetan brethren.
3) Magars/Gurungs/Rais/Tamangs and other lookalikes: Now this is a very heterogeneous group. It's obvious that they can't live together. So each of them can have a piece of their own land. For example, Magars, who make about 10% of the population(the largest of the group) can have about 10% of the land. As for all you bahunized janjatis who speak nothing but Nepal, I feel so sorry for you. You will have to learn langugages that are totally for to you. Aww, to bad, that's the price you pay for embracing bahun/chettri culture.
4) Newars: You can keep Kathmandu
5) Ranas/Thakuris: Pack your bags and off to England you are exiled. You pricks.
6) Madhesis: Join India.

Now this is a very serious subject. I am not joking. It's obvious that Nepal is gonna implode soon. It is bound to happen. It is an inevitability. A huge ethnic conflict will erupt soon enough.

(Baburam and Prachanda can go live with Magars. You antibahun A$$holes)

Let's have a MAHANEPAL battle and maybe someone can write an epic based on this and Nepal will finally be famous!!

Bahuns are not GOD, they can not stay quiet if others hate them and shout at them...

is it not true?

Bahuns are not GOD, they can not stay quiet if others hate them and shout at them...

is it not true?

Bahuns are not GOD, they can not stay quiet if others hate them and shout at them...

is it not true?

Sorry, 'एतातिर हेर्नुस ' ले गर्दा तीन चोटी टाँसिएछ, पत्तो नै भएन ।

Yeaa ..may be either Oliver Stone or Bernardo Burtolecchi will find another fine story to direct a movie on the epic events of Nepal. It will be a hit.

Haina hou, kati yo jaat paat ko kura chiniraako bhanya. Majjale eek arka sita basera maam khaum na! Eek arkalai kina gaali garirako? Bahun hos ya chetri, gurung hos ya magar, hami sabai jaum aafno aafno bagar,
aarthaat
Haami je jaat ko bhae paani aafno culture jogauna tira lagoun. Desh tukraune tira haoina. Sappai bahun hun , sappai newar, sappai magar, sappai rai.
"Yah, hindu ka khoon, yeh musalmaan ka khoon. Isme Hindu ka kiska, Musalmaan ka kiska? To bool!"- Nana Patekar.
Tyastai "Yo Bahun ko ragat, yo magar ko ragat, yo chetri ko ragat. Yo rai ko, yo teli ko, yo limbu ko, yo jyapu ko, yo madhiseko. Tista ra kangada ra Mechi Mahakali samma ka sappai war bhako thaun ko ragat ra maato ma gaera herum. Tyahan ko matoma misieko ragatma kun chahin Bahun ko kun chahin rai ko, kun chahin chetri ko?Kun chahin Newar ko,tyo patta lagaunu paryo. Differentiate bhae pachi aani TYAHI HISAAB LE desh divide garumla! Differentiate bhaena bhane yi jatiwadi pakhandilai ulto jhundyaera tauko baata aago lagaera jiudai gadhumla ki KASO?"- 100% Upadhyaya Bahun!
LUJJA!

Gosh..stop fighting you guys.........arguing like this won't solve the problem.........

आज भन्दा २८०० बर्ष जति अघिको कुरा हो, सुन्दर पहाडहरुले घेरिएको, एउटा बागमती नाम गरेकी नदि र नख्खु, गोदावरी, मनहरा, शाली, कोड्कु आदि स-साना खोलाहरुले सजिएको एउटा उपत्यका थियो। परापुर्व काल देखिनै ऋषिमुनीहरुले यस ठाउँलाई आफ्नो तपस्यास्थल बनाउँदै आएका थिए। पछि त्यहाँ दक्षिणतर्फ बाट आएका कथित गोपालहरुले (गाइपालेर जिविका चलाउने) बस्ती बसाए। उनिहरु मध्यका एक राजा भए। तिनको नाम भुक्तमान थियो। यिनीहरुको बारेमा कमै कुरा थाह छ। त्यसपछि पुर्वबाट किराँती जातीहरुले यस उपत्यकामा हमला गरी आफ्नो कब्जा जमाए। भनिन्छ, यिनीहरुकै पहिला राजा यलम्बरको पालामा महाभारतको युद्ध भएको थियो। यिनीहरुले उपत्यका र यसका पुर्वका संपूर्ण इलाकाहरुमा आफ्नो कब्जा जमाए र ११०० बर्ष सम्म आफ्नो शासन चलाए। गौतम बुद्ध, हिन्दुस्तानी राजा अशोक, यिनीहरुकै पालामा यस उपत्यकामा आएका थिए। अन्तिम किराँती राजा गस्तीलाइ ई.स. ३०० मा हराएपछि फेरी दक्षिणबाट आएका लिच्छबीहरुले यस उपत्यकामा शासन गर्न थाले। मानदेव, प्रचण्डदेव जस्ता ऐतिहासिक ब्यक्तित्वहरु यहि शासनकालमा देखिए। यिनैका पालामा यसउपत्यकाको काष्ठमण्डप (अपभ्रमंसित, काठमाडौं) भन्ने नाम रह्यो, पशुपतिनाथको मन्दिर पनि यिनीहरुले नै बनाएका थिए। पछि एक कालमा ठकुरी बंशले पनि काष्ठमण्डपमा शासन गर्यो। अंशुबर्मा ठकुरीहरुका पहिला राजा थिए। यिनैका योगदानले सारा तिब्बत प्रदेश बौद्धमार्गी हुनगयो। पछि आएर, ई.सं. १२०० मा मल्लहरुको यस उपत्यकामा कब्जा गरे। उनीहरुले उनीहरुले यस उपत्यकालाइ समृद्ध र कलाले भरिपूर्ण बनाए। यिनीहरु पनि दक्षिण तथा पुर्वबाट नै आएका थिए। जयस्थिति मल्ल, सिद्धिनरसिंह मल्ल, प्रताप मल्ल, रणजीत मल्ल यिनीहरुका प्रख्यात राजा थिए। ई.सं. १७६८ मा पश्चिमी राज्य गोर्खाबाट पृथ्बी नारायण शाह नामका राजाले यस उपत्यकामा बिजय प्राप्त गरी शाहबंशी शासन सुरु गराए। यिनीहरुले यस उपत्यकालाई वरपरका सबै राज्यहरुलाई समेटेर एक बिशाल देश बनाए। यसकाममा मुख्यरुपमा ई.सं. १००० तिर उत्तरबाट आएका जनजातीको एक समुहले शाहबंशीहरुलाई बिशेष सैन्य योगदान गरेको थियो। यसको नाम नेपाल रह्यो।
अहिलेको नेपालको बहुसंख्यकमा गनिने जातीहरु ब्राम्हण र क्षेत्री धेरै पहिले देखि दक्षिण र पश्चिमबाट पहाडिभेगमा बसाइँ सर्दै आएका हुन्। काँठका पहाडिभेगमा यिनीहरुको पहिले देखिने बसोबास भइआएको भएपनि, मुख्यरुपमा, ई.सं. १७६९ पछि मात्र यिनीहरुले काठमाडौंमा बिशेषरुपमा बस्तीबसाउन थाले। आज, ती गोपालबंशीहरु भनेका अहिले तराईमा बस्ने यादवहरु हुन्। किराँती भनेका राई, लिम्बुहरु हुन्। ई.सं. १००० तित उत्तरबाट आएका जनजाती भनेका गुरुङ, मगरहरु हुन्। लिच्छबीहरु अहिले पोडेमा दर्जीत छन्, मल्लहरु र बहुसंख्यक बौद्धमार्गीहरु, जो मल्ल भन्दा पनि धेरै पहिले देखि यस उपत्यकामा थिए, तिनीहरु नेवार हुन्।
अब सबैजनाले मिलेर नतिजा निकालौं, नेपाल कसको, कसलाई कतिभाग दिने, को पहिला नेपालमा आएको, र कसको बढि हक लाग्छ? अझ पनि झगडा गर्ने हो?

Nepesahila,

Is that the history of Kathmandu or that of the whole Nepal?
Read it over again....

Well, the modern Nepal is far bigger than the "Nepal valley" you are talking about.

देश मा के भै राख्या छ थाहा छैन कि क्या हो साथि हो। "भाइ फुटे सम्पति लुटे" कस्तो अचम्म क्या। नेपाल् मा जन अन्दोलन् का लागि साथिहरु गोलि थाप्दै छन् यहाँ साथिहरु america मा बसेर ऐति तेरो र त्यति मेरो, क्या गजब्?? येस्तै ताल् हो भने साथि हो, ग्याने, ग्यानेको चम्चे र रानाहरुले देशको ढुकुटि कुन् बेला रीत्याहो पत्तो नहोला है। "हाडिमा मकै भैन्झाल् राडिलाइ निद्रा नलाग्या" झै नगरौन हो साथि।
प्रजातन्त्र-जिन्दाबाद्
गुट्बन्दि-मुर्दाबाद्
एकता नै बल् हो।

गलाबजी,
दार्जीलिङ देखिलिएर नेपाली मुलका मानिसहरु बस्ने सबै कुनाकाप्चा मेरोलागि काठमाडौं जत्तिकै महत्व राख्छ। चाहे पाँचथरको फिदिम होस् या बैतडिको पाटन। पाल्पाको तानसेन, मुस्ताङको जोमसोम, जनकपुरको मिथिला, सबैको आ-आफ्नै इतिहाँस छ। मैले छैन भन्न खोजेको हैन।
तर मलाई त्यति पुर्णरुपमा थाह नभएकोले लेख्न नसकेको हुँ।
र वास्तबमा यो धागोमा, काठमाडौंमा को पहिला भन्नेहरु र काठमाडौंनै नेपाल ठान्नेहरुको दिमागमा केहि घुसोस् भनेर त्यस प्रति निर्देशित गर्दै काठमाडौंलाई बढि जोड दिएको हुँ। अरु ठाउँलाई पाखा लाउने वा होच्याउने मेरो उद्धेश्य मेरो हैन।

नेपेसाहिंलाजी,

तपाईंले point of reference काठमाण्डौं उपत्यकालाई राख्नु भएको छ। त्यसमा मेरो केही भन्नु छैन जबसम्म तपाईं काठमाण्डौं उपत्यकाको इतिहास नियाल्न चाहनुहुन्छ भने।
तर नेपालमा को कहिले आइपुगे भन्ने तथ्यबारे आफ्नो बिचार राख्ने हो भने, उदाहरणको लागि,
गोरखाका शाहहरु कहिले मेचीकालीबिचको भूमिमा आए भन्ने तर्क राख्नु जरुरी छ, मल्लहरु कहिले हालको नेपालभूमि (त्यो काठमाण्डौं उपत्यका बाहिर पनि हुनसक्छ)मा छिरे भन्नेबारे अध्ययन गर्नु जरुरी छ।

सारमा भन्नु पर्दा,
यो हाम्रो १,४७,१८१ वर्ग किमीको भूभागभित्र को कहिलेदेखि बस्न थाले? त्यो महत्वपूर्ण छ। त्यसपछि मात्र कसले कसमाथि आक्रमण गर्यो, कसले एकीकरण गर्यो भन्ने कुरा आउछ । काठमाण्डौं उपत्यकामा आइसकेपछि मात्रै कोही नेपाली भएको होइन। यो सोचलाई हामीले भित्रैबाट महसुस नगरेसम्म नेपाल देश काठमाण्डौं र मोफसल, दरवार र रैती, केन्द्र र दूरगम को रुपमा टुक्रिरहनेछ।

पुनश्च: तपाईंले मल्लहरु पूर्व र दक्षिणबाट आए भन्नू भएको छ। तर, रमेश खड्काद्वारा लिखित 'कर्णाली' नामक पुस्तक हेर्ने हो भने मल्लहरु जुम्लाबाट काठमाण्डौं सरेको उल्लेख छ। कुन चाहिं सत्य होला?

गलाबजी,
मैले पढे अनुसार मल्लहरु, जसले काठमाडौंमा शासन गरे, १२ औं शताब्दिमा बिहारको तिरहुत भन्ने स्थानबाट काठमाडौं आएका हुन् र पछि मात्र नेवार भएका हुन्। सायद रमेश खड्काजी ले खस मल्लहरुको कुरा गर्दै हुनु हुन्थ्यो कि, जस्ले पश्चिम नेपाल र पश्चिम तिब्बतमा पनि १२ देखि १४ औं शताब्दिसम्म काठमाडौंका मल्लहरुले भन्दा बिशाल राज्य खडा गरेका थिए।

अरु कुराहरुमा म तपाईसँग सहमत छु।

गलाबजी,
मैले पढे अनुसार मल्लहरु, जसले काठमाडौंमा शासन गरे, १२ औं शताब्दिमा बिहारको तिरहुत भन्ने स्थानबाट काठमाडौं आएका हुन् र पछि मात्र नेवार भएका हुन्। सायद रमेश खड्काजी ले खस मल्लहरुको कुरा गर्दै हुनु हुन्थ्यो कि, जस्ले पश्चिम नेपाल र पश्चिम तिब्बतमा पनि १२ देखि १४ औं शताब्दिसम्म काठमाडौंका मल्लहरुले भन्दा बिशाल राज्य खडा गरेका थिए।

अरु कुराहरुमा म तपाईसँग सहमत छु।

फेरी एकपटक,
म काठमाडौंमा केन्द्रित हुनुको उद्देश्य, यो र अरु एक दुई धागोमा कोहि कोहिले काठमाडौं चाहि आफ्नो र अरु सबैलाई चाहिं डाँडा काटेर जाओ जस्ता शब्दहरु प्रयोग गरेको देखियो। र मलाई यो कुरा लेख्न ईच्छा लाग्यो।
अब दिमाग छ भने, बुझिहाल्लान् क्यारे कि अहिले काठमाडौंमा नामोनिशान नभएकाहरुको पनि यहाँ कति योगदान रहेछ र कति हक रहेछ उनिहरुको पनि, भनेर।

Though my ethnic group does not make up the majority of the population, do you think it is fair that I sought the help of laures from Singapore, UK, India and Brunei to obtain lions share of the land or even better get hold of Nepal itself and drive all the others out.

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Like i have posted earlier, d natives of d Himalayas have been 2 open 2 embrace foreigners into our land....so if there's any division of country as u suggest...those foreigners shld leave at once n return back 2 India or wherever they came frm ....bloody ungrateful backstabbing n manipulative fugutives ....

These fugutives have wrked relentlessly 4 their personal agenda has brought the nation 2 near anarchy n choas which is more conspicious these days.This process started as immediately as those foreigners escaping Muslim invaders frm their native land, came to the peaceful Himalayan domain n began their gradual pollution of sorts frm their smell 2 their mentality, dirtying the Himalayan innocence with their stench.

Had we resisted their immigration into our land, we could have seen development n progress such as Bhutan's where d presence of this group of plp r a virutal minority n so is their loathsome influence. Our people wld have been less vulnerable 2 explotation n deceit frm such parasites of society. Although incidents n events cannot & should never b generalized, the underlying truth will always remain evident. As such dis group of plp is held accountable n not any individual though individuals have done their part in varying magnititudes. These r d ills that have plagued our beautiful Himalayan home.

btw 40% Bahuns n chettris....d main reason these plp r d majority now is primarily beocz of d fact that many able bodied natives of d Himalayas were sent into WWW I n WWW II 4 exploitation with a veiled intention of reducing our numbers so dat they'll b majority instead.... We've been exploited far 2 long...n it's high time dat those responsible repent....if not ur abuses which our plp have increasing been aware in d last couple of decades imploded into something u nvr wished 2 happen.But dat's wishful thinking as a lepoard nvr changes its spots.....so is d same 4 dis group of fugutives. I guess these plp already noe of our resentment against their kind.....as such dis current thread started.... D clock's ticking......d day will come ...coz nothing last forever....b on ur way out of our land....d countdwn had already started d day , forefather of these fugutives...started their campaign of exploitation against us natives. How does one feel if someone taking refuge in ur home...starts 2 deceive u...use ur resources indiscrimantly, cheat u n finallly.....surpress u into abject livelihood.

Those who feel strongly against my post r d ones in all likelyhood 2 belong in that group of plp implied whilst the rest r in consent with my view in varying agreement. Cheers 2 all the natives of our land.

Two points, three actually,

Do not lump the Chettris into the Bahun group. Chettris were considered outcast by the Bahuns. (Some Bahuns even said the KC meant Khaseko Chettris). Chettris are quite open minded compared to Bahuns and they (Chettris) are more in tune with other ethnic groups in terms of temperamental, etc., and many are connected by marriages also. We will not come to the Bahuns’ rescue when the mess created by you is all over.

So, where is the question of 40%?

This idea of splitting the country is nothing but again a clever Bahun conspiracy. Now they know that they cannot continue to rule by conspiracy, they are talking about splitting the country on a caste line. Do they have anything in their minds that does not have conspiracy to its central plan. We’ve seen it thousands of times. Are you still proud of what you are with all the education you have??

Who came first is not the question. All should get the equal opportunity. There should be no privileged or conspiracy class.

Damn it, so much talk and hatred about the caste and caste but that is all there is in the minds of the Nepalis, and mostly those who are in the US, and particularly those who have jumped the line to come to the US and raised with the ghush or bhrastachar money but act innocent as if they did not know it. It seems all the problems we are having with the insurgency is connected to the caste bias. Even if the Maoists come to the mainstream without addressing the ethnic bias that is prevalent in the country, the insurgency will see it’s another phase.

Whoever you are, with all the time at your disposal, instead of splitting the country, go split your own hair or hajurbako hair. Lau ta ja, j parla parla bhanidiye.

Mo*** Fo haru,
kamm chiana...ani jat bhat ko kura garchha,...jatha jathi haru....
Aba bahun..chettri bhanchha,...rai limbu bhanchha....madhise bhanchha....sabai ko kura garchha....hami tyammar...cross haru lai chahi k garchha ...
hami le kati pauchha pachhi....split garyo bhane...nepal..I m so worried .....

lado jasto kura garchha....
The reality is...junai jaat pani koi bhanda koi kum chaina...manchhe haru junai caste ma ni ramro naramro hunchha...tyaso ho bhane sabai jaat ma naramro manchhe hunchha...that doesnt mean every caste is disgusting.....
people...there isnt any benefit by cursing eachother....
We are humans..let act as a human...or mero goooo kha...

peace out/
One of the THyammers