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 Measuring Infinity?
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Posted on 04-20-06 1:27 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I have been thinking about the purpose of life for quite a while now. I do not know if have the correct answer yet, but recently having read through some of the interesting literary (sacred) texts and combining it with my own concept of relativistic humans I am starting to pen down an answer.

I would like to argue the basis of religion. Each one of them individually appears to me as a convenience code of law for social well being and co-existence established for a given time frame in space. Not arguing about the "Theory of Evolution" and assuming that Darwin was right with it, why did we not ask the question, why did the evolution take place ? Why did man have to come from the Monkey and why did the monkey have to start from the cell. What is the driving force behind this evolution ?

Looking at solutions beyond scientific literature into efforts of consciousness and self realization, no religion is able to explain evolution. It is neither very convincing that all species are eternal, nor it is wrong to question the purpose of creation. Why should there exist a world in the first place ? Rephrasing the question "Why do we need a "CONTROLLER" and the "CONTROLLED" ?

I am not challenging the concept of the existence of the "ABSOLUTE" with atheism. Looking around at the width and breadth of creation, I think it is probably just common sense to accept a greater force than the ones on earth in a multi-dimensional frame beyond time immemorial speculation.

Focusing on self-realization and the religion approach, we as humans have accepted anything new and convenient for a change. Does that mean Hinduism is the crudest of religions that evolved into better forms such as Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism and even Islam and Christianity? Not to make an analogy again with science but personally I think it is like comparing the inventor of the wheel with the inventor of the electric bulb for a Nobel prize in Physics for the year 2004. Whose contribution would you vote superior ? This is exactly the crux of my relativistic philosophy. We as humans are limited in time to acquire infinite knowledge. At every point of life we make decisions based on our surroundings minimizing material and intellectual effort. We christen something as pleasure and something as pain on a relative platform. We classify the good and the bad on a relative platform and attribute a judgment based on a motive that interprets differently to the accused and the accuser. We are destined to accept this domain as the arena of material existence. This realization though lubricates the survival mechanism, is not an elixir to spiritual search of infinity.

Beginning with spiritual search, the idea (as the Lord is quoted from the Gita) that there always existed Supreme God, you , Time and the Relativistic Material World is an axiom. Not questioning the axiom everything else falls in place the judgment based on "karma" as use/misuse of freewill, the cycle of birth and death and the purpose of the sixth decision-making sense. Speculating on the axiom itself, Why should there be God, me and time ? What is the motivation behind me existing in eternal time ? Is this the result of previous relativistic thinking ? Am I asking the significance of 180 degrees as a number to be a linear pair of angles. Am I trying to quantify the "ABSOLUTE" with that question ?

It is indeed very difficult to measure infinity..!!
 
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the answers to your last two questoins: yes and yes. why not just say that *it is* the universe exists and i exist. that's all that matters. is there a grand designer who rationalizes like me has plans for me in the universal scheme of things? it does not matter.
 
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btw isn't infinity by definitoin immeasurable? when a mathematician/physicist sits down to do some calculations, and comes up with an arbitrarily large number, he prolly goes "i'll just call it infinity. i dont really care how large it is. i just know that it's large. i'll just call it infinity and move on with my life"
 
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I am not a spiritual person by any means, I believe in mathematics though. To me, infinity is Not A Number, and I don't care about measuring it. If I dare do it, and come up with mesurements like inifinity1, infinity2, so on and so forth, I am sure it's not gonna make a lot of difference. They are all infinities.

Have a nice day godfather! :)
 
Posted on 04-20-06 8:51 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I am looking to connect spiritual infinity with the mathematical one.

Thanks for reading, ZalimSingh and Mr. Lonely.
 
Posted on 04-20-06 9:29 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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"Does that mean Hinduism is the crudest of religions that evolved into better forms such as Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism and even Islam and Christianity? "

Yes, it's evolution in everything including thinking or imagination, or what peopel call faith upon God and group themselves to practice it as a religion . All religions will themselves breakdown in the course of time and this is what you can see. Thre are already three Islamic fathis, two in Baudaism, some in Christianity ("Scientology" , a recent one), so all religion will die out sooner or later and new faiths will evolve,

but there is no words like "better" that can be labelled to a faith compared to another one. faith is faith. it not the belief that needs at least a little clue to have one.

conclusion:
there won't be any existance of religion called Islam or Christianity or whatever in the present state in next 5000 years for sure. Perhaps, only one faith may exist with a only one God, "God and only God" by that time.
 


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