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anti_monarqi
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Posted on 08-09-05 6:29
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Hey friends There would be a protest really in the NY city on Sept 16th. Please join us and let?s show our support to our Nepali brothers and sisters who are protesting unelected leader?s undemocratic actions. It is expected that king would be UN giving a hypocritical speech.
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Posted on 08-15-05 7:35
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Anti monarqi - I think you failed to understand our historical, cultural, social, ethnic supremacy and identity, and our geo political limitations. You can give examples of many other nations where constitutional monarqi is working whilst there are many countries (thrid world) where they have more problems when they tried to copy different models of republicanism.
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Posted on 08-15-05 7:53
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Psc Ji You might trying to give an examples of UK but remember in UK two king were hung by parliament and they couldn?t find a king in UK so they imported king from Belgium ( I believe) But is true two kings were hung by parliament. Now UK monarchy comes in news when it does when some stupid things like prince to some one or some sleep with some one or some one like to some one. UK is not powerhouse of even Europe. UK is leader is USA. So you could see where UK monarchy has taken UK.
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Posted on 08-15-05 8:12
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Yo Ant i you keep talking about people fighting for right... what is that fuugin rights you keep talkin' 'bout ? What human rights ? If you look at the world.... because of terrorist behaviour of insurgents... there is no such thing as rights anymore. What you want right for fuggin MAo's who use innoscent people as human shield ? or the politicians who have looted the country of the lil dignity we had left ? Or the king with his swiss bank account ? What freakin rights are you talkin about ? You are an independent minded person with a tilted sense of reality... he heh And WHAT THE FUG IS A REPUBLICAN DEMOCRACY ? If some mofo had not told you waht it is you would be just another casualty of the conflict. WHAT ID THE FUGGIN MESSAGE YOU TELL ME....pls enlighten me ....
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Posted on 08-15-05 8:22
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Yo Anti Another thing you keep bringing the past and try 'n compare Nepal with other countries....And all the bullshit you keep blabbering about ? Those are the very elements that define us as Nepali. And you seem to be hellbent on changing it to something that we are not. You are sounding more and more like a person who would shit on the same plate he eats.... he he
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Posted on 08-15-05 9:10
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Mr coffee ji I have to talk about past cause people keeping bring about past. In fact I want to move in future that is why I have been talking about republican democracy. I have said lets forget about past people wont let. About corruption I have been saying Place is the root of corruptions and politicians are branches of the corruption tree. So as long you keep root it would produce new branches. That is why I want to get rid of whole root. For me taking bribe to buy 70 laks pejero is came as well as spending 22 crods peoples money two buy 5 cars in 2 years also crime. The difference between is the person who buys pejero chor and the person who buy 5 cars is daka. Cause it is easy to criticize chor then daka Anyway come to protest on Sept 16th 2005
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Posted on 08-15-05 9:27
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Yo Anti !! You seem to forget the 15 yrs of so Called democracy where the country went from bad to worse. As I had said before JUST BY GETTING RID OF MONARCHY IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM. Its evident in past 15yrs of so called people's rule. The materialistics shit that you are talking about(Pajero & cars are evidence of SOUR GRAPES) is not even a dent on the current problems General Nepali people are facing on a day to day basis. As I had asked you before ... So you got rid of Gyaney ...then WHAT ? Put those same mofo that bought those cars and Pajero(according to you) back in power ? I DON"T THINK SO. LET's give Gyaney a chance to clean up this mess... bring the country back to normalcy then we can talk about what sorta Govt we want. HOW THE FUG ARE YOU GOING TO RUN WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO WALK ? First you need to learn how to take them baby steps.
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Posted on 08-15-05 9:43
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Mr coffee ji Again you forced me to talk about past. I told you I dun want to talk about past. Well 15 years would be unwise to compare with 250 years plus. I don?t think 15 years would have fixed 250 year of miss management and loot. As far as chance for monarchy, we nepali have already given them more then 250 years with our blood and treasure. If you think country as company then monarchy system should have gone long time ago. If you have company and your company CEO doesn?t do good job you don?t keep him. For monarchy system has done nothing good for Nepal. Well I am not angry with any person I just oppose system, If King g wants to chance to serve country he should get ok from people. People are the owner of the country. I mean he should leave kingship and run as president. There is another way king g could serve Nepal if he dun want to run as president. He could be social worker. See none elected person who wants to serve country can?t more then social worker.
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Posted on 08-15-05 9:43
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Gorkhali-X wrote: >NEPE RADIKOBAN, NEXT TIME I SEE YOU IN PUBLIC I WILL KICK >YOUR ASS........... THIS IS A GORKHALIS PROMISE - http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/openthread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=23157&show=all#154476 Black Jack wrote: >Gorkhali-X AKA SHAILENDRA KHATRI who lives in DC area says: >"NEPE RADIKOBAN, NEXT TIME I SEE YOU IN PUBLIC I WILL KICK >YOUR ASS........... THIS IS A GORKHALIS PROMISE" >lau hai NEPEji, hajur lai Shailendra Babu ley physical harm garne >threaten garnu bhako raicha, yeso baru Restraining Order jari garne >po ho ki. Mero 2 cent :) This is neither the first time nor I am alone among Sajha posters with real identity known whom Gorkhali-X has threatened, in fact sworn, to do physical harm. He has gone as far as deranged man can go, posting an implied threat to rape a lady poster right here in Sajha ! And those who saw it knows what he did yesterday by starting a thread "Huspuppy". Gorkhali-X wrote yesterday: >[. . . . . ] sucks [. . . .] for free and she likes to swallow too, she >wants to prove her feminist ideas by swallowing as much [. . . ] >as she can and prove that just cause she sucks she ain't no >ho.............hahahahahahahahhahaha f**king biatch sucks >NEPE's [. . . . ] all day........ Sensing this person's criminal attitude, I have been avoiding Gorkhali-X since the first time he addressed me (last February) - http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=216&ThreadID=19137#113109 >Gorkhali-X, . . . . . . >I have seen you mixing your tremendous personal ego with just about anything you >talk here and getting personal with people who are not even remotely interested in >you. I have seen you threatening to beat up people. I have seen you even implying >threatening of raping a lady poster whose identity is publicly known. . . .May be you >are a good person in real. However, the kind of behave you showed in above cases >bring to me an image of a person with criminal tendency. I am sorry for the >offensive word, but I got to be honest with you. As I said, this could be your >cyber persona only and you may be a good person in reality. >So unless I know you well or see good side of yours enough to feel trustworthy, >I am reluctant to have a political discussion or just about any discussion with you. I do not want to go after Gorkhali-X, simply because he never bothered me. Yes. I never allowed myself to be bothered by him. And that was because I am aware that this is Sajha and there are too many posters from the more or less same species of Gorkhali-X. And nothing can stop this species to do what they want to do, that is, wear a mask and threaten and insult fellow posters. San can ban the username Gorkhali-X. But he can not stop the person who is determined to come back. All he has to do is to register with a new nick that comes first in his mind, let's say, Goru-De-Sadhe or SD_Gorkha from the same ISP or a new one. People who are determined to abuse anonymity can not be stopped. So I have stopped worrying about them a long ago. Now about the real person, Sahilendra KC from DC, allegedly Gorkhali-X. I will wait for his response before I ask him to take the responsibility of Gorkhali-X's kukrityaharu in Sajha.
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Posted on 08-15-05 10:01
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Yo ANTI, You tend to forget that the literacy rate of Nepal is what ? People are the owners of the country Correct....Well since his fam did unite the country and gave you and me an identity(that should at least count for something right ?). I mean if our people were soo fuggin capable of RULING OURSELVES THEN WE WOULD HAVE NEVER REACHED THIS POINT right ? Yeah sure.. AFTER GYANEY BRINGS THE COUNTRY BACK TO NORMALCY...sure let him be social worker by all means.... Just look at the State of the country for past 15 yrs and the last 250yrs...The state of economy, value of currency, GDP, Trade deficeit...etc etc The rate at which the country deteriorated is like a race car Vs the Rocket. That is why education, stability of the country, economic developement etc etc is more important than getting rid of some phuney king. FOR WELFARE OF ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTRY IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS A JOB, EDUCATION, WHICH IN TURN WOULD GRADUALLY LEAD US TO THE STATE OF THE NATION YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT. LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE not just chat the mantra of getting rid of monarchy.
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Posted on 08-15-05 10:16
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Mr coffee ji Yes his family united country but who spill the blood your and mine forefather. We have been paying him very handsomely. In fact his salaries are 500 times higher then a peon salaries where as in the USA president salary is only 50 times more then minimum required wages. Now you might say we can compare USA and Nepal and I am just comparing the ratio. Cuba has 100% literacy rate but there is no democracy. I guess china has more literacy then India but china also dun has democracy. Everyone deserves to live in freedom. It is human nature. So I find it hard understand illiterate people don?t need democracy.
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Posted on 08-15-05 11:59
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Anti , Its just funny to see that you count everything in materialistic terms. You talk about paying him 200 times.... the fact of the mater is that this not something that can be bought in monetery terms. Its like paying Gandhi for freeing India from the Brits or George Washington for freeing USA from the Colonies. If it was not for Gyaney's family ..he he you would probably speaking Indian now or something else. I dun know about 100%literacy rate in cuba but if you look at China..he he They are slowly moving away from defining themselves as Commies. With the robust economy people are moving towards that gradual process of Democracy. Before Tianamin Sq incident ..ppl were not allowed to own property in China...but now people own cars mansions and apartment etc etc Cuba is under dictatorship(look up the difference in Dictionery between monarchy and dictatorship)....and fidel does not look like he will give up his power in the near future. Where as Gyaney IS SAYING HE WILL RESTORE DEMOCRACY ONCE THE COUNTRY IS STABALIZED(Man I feel like a fuggin broken record repeating the same statement over and over again trying to get through your THICK SKULL)
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Posted on 08-15-05 12:33
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Dissent? particpatory, creative, peaceful. Creative Dissent Nepal. - http://www.creativedissentnepal.org "Be creative! Never trust your own voice if it sounds jaded, if it sounds like another ghostly voice?then you have become a mere echo." A tasty mix of creativity, conviction and fun at NYC Rally, Sept 16th 2005. What to bring: your spirit, your friends, your message, your personality.
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Posted on 08-15-05 12:56
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NExt thing you know there will be a scuffle between the Pro and anti Monarchies. Front page is going to read Confusion in Front of UN Building. Never trust your own voice if it sounds jaded ? Mr Vigilence ....what the fuk does that mean ? Unlike u ma voice will NEVER be jaded. Neither will it ever be an echo cause only stoopid morons follow trends(ones that cannot think for themselves thats why they have to follow trends to belong). Tasty Mix of creativity, confiction and fun ? For what ? What is the purpose ? you're probably gonna say get rid of the King ...THEN WHAT ? BRING IN ANOTHER HALF ASSED LEADER(of your party's choice) TO FILL HIS OR HER POCKET ? I DON"T THINK SO .... To bring my spirit, my frens, and my message ? Well Mother f***ker I do not share the same message nor do my frens. The only spirit you fuggers will bring is THE SPIRIT OF OPPERTUNISTS AND THE KISSASS FOLLOWERS OF OPPERTUNISTS WHO CANNOT THINK FOR THEMSELVES
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Posted on 08-15-05 1:18
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Hey do u guys have enough tires to burn on the streets of NY. I changed my tires few days back. I will post it to you if you need them. SO is there gonna be chhakka jam or NY Bandh??
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Posted on 08-15-05 1:47
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I just had mycar tires changed, If you want them I can send those old tires to you guys.
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Posted on 08-15-05 2:01
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To those who are planning to attend Protest rally What has happened in the past, either Rana/Shah monocracy or political parties, is done. We cannot change the past. The damage has already been DONE. What you and I can do is to protect further damaging the wounds. Most of us who live in US and abroad may not directly be affected by how things go in Nepal but those who we have left behind are still suffering even our share of pain. We Nepalese have been extremely divided and sub-divided in last several years. If you believe that we still have a chance to be United as a ONE Single Nation NEPAL then, you wouldn't go to NY to show the world how divided we are. PEOPLE, don't you think by now, we should have learnt to priorities what more importation for Nepal and Nepalese is. I know it is not that hard for most of us to go to NY and hang out in front of UN building with some nasty message plate for couple of hours. Any unemployed loser would do that for a beer. Every single Nepalese understand that biggest threat that Nepalese have is Moist. So what is more important in this day? Safety/security/ Life of Nepalese living in Nepal or YOUR RIGHT to TALK CRAP about Government? If you are so worried about the freedom of speech, WHAT ABOUT THE FREEDOM OF LIVING FOR 20 Million NEPALESE? Protesting in foreign land not only shows how divided we are but also how ignorant we are. Things are not gonna dramatically change if political parties come back to the government at least not until new generation of leaders takes in charge. With the same old, Banarashi babus will never do anything good for the country. Maoists are not just gonna come to negation table. What we need here is a sense of unity among ourselves. I know most of you are too hard headed to understand anything outside your small box. You have forced to believe yourself that Gyane is the only root of the problem and your mind has led to believe you that once he leaves, everything will be alight. BUT after how many man's life are you gonna finally understand that Gyane is not the most dangerous risk for Nepalese lives, there are plenty which needs all of ours attention. We all love and NEED DEMOCRACY and I don't know any one who doesn?t believe that. BUT security of life is more important than anything. Don't you want; your family and friends who live in Nepalese would still be alive when you visit them in future. Don?t risk their life with your little selfish freedom. I am ready to sacrifice a little bit of my freedom for your family's safety. Countries like Singapore, Israel have a law that mandates every physically able man to serve in the military for at least 3 years after their high school and even United States constitution allows the government to draft for army in times of national crisis. You don't hear them complaining about it. Because they are smart enough to understand that their contribution would help their mother land to stay strong. Why only we Nepalese have to b*tch about everything? What have we done for our country lately? What have you done? Other than just b*tching like CRY BABY and talk CRAP about EVERY SINGLE GOVERNMENT. DO yourself a favor, don't waste your precious time making big a$$ fool of yourself in New York. Go watch Duce Bigalow instead and make a good use of you?re a$$, if your can't do better.
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Posted on 08-15-05 2:03
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Anti monarqi - I just didn't understand why you are talking all the time about past 250 years? I don't know what history have you reda about that period. If you have read the real history of Nepal then you would not have cited "250 years" time and again. may be you have read history written by real anti monarqists (Maoists)? Otherwise we had a glorious history in much of those years and even Bristish India has praised Nepalese rulers. It is only 104 Ranaism which is curse in Nepalese history and potrayed negatively. I think period between 2007 to 2017 (democratic period) is much worst then 2017 onward for ordinary people (not for handful of political activists). People had a high hope and expectation after 2046 but the result they got in this era is Maoists problem and about 12 governments in 12 years. Democracy is a best system as long as leaders do not make it "Badar ko Hat ma Nariwal". Democracy without discipline, rule of law, instability, corruption, mis-governance, nepotism etc is worst than any autocratic system. If the head of the state (HoS) or head of the government (HoG) ride bullet proof VIp car then why should we creep. They have not bought "Airforce 1". Regarding their salary it is same thing. If the HoS or HoG gets some privilege by virtue of being in that position then so what. Constitution of Nepal 2047 has given executive power to the elected PM and he is also entitled to enjoy such privileges. Just because King enjoyed these privileges (constitutionally) does not justify protest. By the way, so far abolishing monarchy is not an official agenda of even NC, UML, NSP, NMKP etc; it is an agenda of Maoists only. If you are supporting Maoists cause then come forward and say so, why to hide your real identity.
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Posted on 08-15-05 10:24
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Yes I would love to see those so called pro-monarchist. I want to see those people who said one family is better then other far better then other families of Nepal. Even though that family has produce killer and rapist. If you guys love monarchy system so much why are you in democratic republican country. Go back and help your king. You keep telling me I talk about past but you are the one who keep talking about past. If you going past to prove your point then I would use the past too. Now some of you told Rana rule was dark period of Nepal. But at that time when Nepali were trying to get rid of Rana rule there were people like you who used to say that rana was better. It is the king who brought rana. So how come you don?t blame king for putting Nepal in dark period. In 2017 when this king dad killed democracy he told this? what other countries has achieved in 100 years we have to achieved in 10 years?. But in 10 years he pushed Nepal 100 years behind. Now you might say one politician said that he would make Nepal like Singapore people laugh at him and he lost election. How come you don?t laugh at that king and say what stupid statement was that. Where is the punishment for that king lying to Nepali? Now you gonna tell me what great shah rule was what great about it?. The person who cuts his own people noses and ears was great or the person who makes elephant step on people chest for fun was great or the person who shoot his own family in cold blood was great. How much dirty laundry has to come out of ruller family. As I stated I just wanted head of state elected it could be Gyanedra or paras or girja or madav or pasupati or other. Only elected person has right to be head of state.
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Posted on 08-15-05 10:37
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mr psc I am not any party person so I dun have to talk like parties. It is parties? problem if they want monarchy system. And I guess you don?t read of ignore. How could I support Maoist where they talk about establishing one party communist rule and I talk about multi party democracy. How would you feel if I say you are mandle. So don?t try to paint me. I am for republican democracy just for one reason. I believe all human being are created equally so every one should have same opportunity and chance to be head of state. As long as we have monarchy system that is not possible I dun want any system which discriminate people.
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Posted on 08-16-05 7:07
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Please don't forget about Protest rally on 16th of sept in NY city during king visit
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