There is no doubt that the present autocratic government led by G has to be overthroen.

I strongly sopport the peaceful movement by seven parties like all democracy loving citizen of Nepal.

However, I am DISGUSTED that seven parties are silent about the latest series of violence caused by Maoist. If they are for peaceful movement, they should not be scared of maoist, they should be clear about their stance against Maoist.

They should condemn it, and warn maoist that such violence means termination of 12 point agenda.

Or they should also join the hands of maoist and go for the armed struggle.

I think this is the double standard from parties. They can not dream of having cake and eat it too. They should be clear and honest about it. They should realize that they can not win at the cost of blood of thousands of security personnel. They (seven parties) would need all these security personnel if they get the power and if maoist did not lay down their arms. or the worst senario-against the foreign intervention. They have to applaud the bravery of security personnel. How will the army have faith on seven parties if they do not condemn the recent series of violence.

what do you guys think?

Bhoonte(?)-jee,

Please try to keep discussions respectful and democratic. Please do not engage in pre-emptive and presumptuous name-calling. Your mode of expression dominated with patronizing and dismissive adjectives at anyone who doesn't completely agree with you simply nullifies any valid points your arguments might contain.

But if you cannot do that, then obviously you're not fit for any meaningful discussion with me. I only debate with those with integrity. Thank you.

Bhoonte is the real democrat of King G's version who wants to shut up every mouth that opens in favor of democracy ( 7 parties). Where is the freedom of speech in your democracy?

So far talking about the connection of parties with the maoist, this is the palace who tactically promoted maoist against the parliamentary system and used them to prove that democracty is failure.

In the initial phase, the maoist killed only NC members, few UML members, piuso sipahis of Police. They didn't touch the army. There was a kind of undisclosed understanding that the maoist and army would not provoke each other. it was even heard that the two commanders of either side waved or shook hand with each other whenever they met.
After the Royal massacre, the maoist said that there was a kind of undisclosed understanding between them and king Birendra. What does this mean?

Girija had wanted to deploy army against the maoist but the army didn't co-operate and as a result he had to step down and Sher Bahadur got chance to become PM. During several round of dialogue with the Sher's government, the maoist first time realized that the palace is just double crossing. So, they stretched their guns to military installations.

When political parties were in the government, General Sahebs like Satchit Samsher, Gadul Samsher, and royalist Ramesh Nath Pandey etc kept saying that the maoists are also the son of Nepalese and that their issues should be politically addressed...

Applying all these tactics, the palace sidelined the parties and now they are trying to prove the connection between the parties and the maoists so that they can treat them equally...BUT..its not so simple.

Now the equation has changed. It was necessary to recognize the power of maoists and address their issues and this is what the parties have done. The king should capitalize this chance to disarm the maoists and persuade them to come to main political stream.

BUT the king has nothing to do with the main political stream. His mainstream is to establish his dictatorship and own supremacy.

Nobody can shut up the mouth that speaks democracy. The mouth that speaks autocracy will shut up itself sooner or later.

Once in a while people make observations and decisions based on haresay once in a while!!

पोस्टपेडलगायत सम्पूर्ण सञ्चार सेवा बन्द हुनसक्छ ः राज्यमन्त्री राणा

कान्तिपुर संवाददाता
काठमाडौं, माघ २२ - सरकारले सुरक्षाका कारणले पि्रपेड मोबाइल बन्द गरेको बताउँदै आवश्यक परेको अवस्थामा पोस्टपेड लगायत सम्पूर्ण संचार सेवा अवरुद्ध गर्नसक्ने जनाएको छ । सरकारका प्रवक्ता सूचना तथा संचार राज्यमन्त्री श्रीषशमशेर राणाले यो जानकारी दिनुभएको थियो ।
'आवश्यकता परेको खण्डमा पोस्टपेड तथा अन्य संचार सेवाहरू बन्द गर्न पनि राज्य बाध्य हुने छ', नेपाल टेलिकमको शनिबार सम्पन्न दोस्रो वाषिर्कोत्सवपछि राज्यमन्त्री राणाले संवाददाताहरूसँग भन्नुभयो ।

उहाँले चुनावपछि सेवा संचालन गर्नेर्े सम्बन्धमा पनि स्पष्ट बताउनुभएन । राणाले सरकारी अनुमतिमा भित्र्याएको प्रविधिले जिउधनको सुरक्षामा नै प्रतिकूल असर गर्न थालेपछि सेवा बन्द गर्नुको विकल्प नभएकोे बताउनुभयो ।

'सबभन्दा ठूलो मानवीय सुरक्षा हो, त्यसैले सरकारले केही समयका लागि पि्रपेड मोबाइल बन्द गरेको हो', उहाँले भन्नुभयो । राणाले हातमा बन्दुक बोकेका माओवादी छापामारका खल्तीमा पि्रपेड मोबाइल फेला पारेको जनाउँदै ध्वंसात्मक गतिविधिमा सहयोग पुर्‍याएकाले सेवा केही समयका लागि स्थगित गरिएको जानकारी दिनुभयो । उहाँले जिम्मेवार राज्यले सर्वसाधारणको सुरक्षाका लागि उपलब्ध सुविधा केही समयका लागि स्थगित गर्नु सामान्य भएको जानकारी दिनुभयो ।

राणाले पि्रपेड मोबाइल ल्याउनका लागि राज्यलेे ठूलो लगानी गरेको र निजी क्षेत्रले पनि धेरै लगानी गरे पनि देशको स्थिति प्रतिकूल भएकाले सरकार सेवा बन्द गर्न बाध्य भएको जानकारी दिनुभयो । 'निजी क्षेत्रको भन्दा राज्यको जनताको धेरै लगानी डुबेको छ', राणाले भन्नुभयो ।

सरकारी स्वामित्वको नेपाल टेलिकम र निजी क्षेत्रको स्पाइस सेल प्रालिले समेत गरी करिब साढे तीन लाख पि्रपेड मोबाइल फोन वितरण गरेका थिए । टेलिकमले साढे दुई लाख पि्रपेड मोबाइल वितरण गरेको छ भने स्पाइस सेलले वितरण गरेका अधिकांश फोन पि्रपेड रहेका छन् ।

उहाँलेे सरकारी अधिकारीहरूकोे सिफारिसमा पि्रपेड मोबाइल वितरण गरिए पनि बन्द गर्नु परेको बताउनुभयो । उहाँले सरकारी अधिकारीको समेत विश्वास गर्न नसकिएको र माओवादी को हुन् भनेर टाउकोमा नलेखिएको बताउनुभयो । राज्यमन्त्री राणाले कसैको पनि विश्वास गर्न नसकिने स्थिति भएको पनि बताउनु भयो ।

राणाले सूचना तथा संचार प्रविधि अहिलेको जीवनको अपरिहार्य अङ्ग भएकाले सरकारले यो क्षेत्रलाई प्रतिस्पर्धी बनाउने नीति लिएको जानकारी दिनुभयो । यो सेवालाई अझ प्रभावकारी बनाउन दूरसंचार सेवाको समसामयिक सुधारका लागि सरकारले नेपाल दूरसंचार ऐन, २०५३ लाई समसामयिक सुधार गर्न लागेको जानकारी दिनुभयो ।

सरकारले उपभोक्तालाई गुणस्तरीय सेवा दिन सरकारी स्वामित्वको टेलिकमले आफ्नो कार्यशैलीमा परिवर्तन गर्नुपर्ने बताउनुभयो । 'निजी क्षेत्रबाट पनि दूरसञ्चार सेवा सञ्चालन भएकाले सरकारी स्वामित्वको टेलिकमले सबैका लागि भरपर्दो, सस्तो र सुलभ हुनुपर्छ', उहाँले भन्नुभयो । राणाले सामाजिक दायित्व समेत बोकेको टेलिकमका सेवाहरू दुर्गम र ग्रामीण क्षेत्रमा समेेत पुर्‍याउनुपर्ने आवश्यकता औंलाउनुभयो ।

नेपाल टेलिकमका प्रबन्ध निर्देशक सुगतरत्न कंसाकारले राज्यको लक्ष्यअनुसार फोन वितरणका लागि लामो बोलपत्र प्रक्रिया बाधक भएको गुनासो गर्नुभएको थियो । 'निजी क्षेत्रले संरचना विस्तार गर्ने निर्णय तुरुन्तै गर्न सक्छ तर टेलिकमले त्यसका लागि निकै लामो प्रक्रिया पूरा गरेरमात्र निर्णय गर्न सक्छ', उहाँले भन्नुभयो । कंसाकरले दूरसञ्चार क्षेत्रमा निजी क्षेत्रको प्रवेश भइसकेकाले व्यवस्थापनदेखि सबभन्दा तल्लो तहका कर्मचारीको मानसिकतामा समेत परिवर्तन आवश्यक भएको बताउनुभयो ।

Echoes............

u see the maoist representing the poor???????????????

are u on dope????

Don't u guys think it is not the issue of who represents the poor.... now in Nepal??

The truth noone even our dear Bhoonte can also deny that KG is ruling the country without any mandate from people. His attorney general saying in Supreme court that Kings' actions cannot be questioned because he is incarnation of GOD.

If i have to chose between Maoists and KG i would definitely chose former. If you want to know the reason just listen to what Maoists leaders say in interview and KG and co says, which do u think is closer to truth?

Excesses of monarchists: impact of 'elections' to select some more monarchists.
Jaleshwor locals fleeing to India ahead of polls: Report

Local residents of Jaleshwor have started migrating to India to avoid the possible violence and pressure to participate in the upcoming municipal elections, a newspaper report said.

Many people who had left their houses in order to avoid elections was seen in Bhitthamod Bazaar in the neighbouring region of India. Many people left their houses without understanding the reason.

Some of the houses have been completely deserted whereas in some houses there are some men to look after the houses.

The bombing of various government buildings by the Maoists in Jaleshwor and the unilateral firing launched by the security men thereafter has terrorised the locals of the region.

The residents of the municipality have said that the candidates who have been coming for election campaign with security men around them have further tensed the situation.

Nepal Samachapatra daily quoted a woman from Jaleshwor-6 who was heading towards India along with her three small children as saying, "Rumour has it that the headquarters would be attacked. We don’t know what will happen next. On the other hand if we go to vote in the election our neighbours belonging to the political parties will be angry and there is a possibility of falling prey to the explosion. If we don’t go to vote there is a possibility that the security men would come to our home and compel us to vote. Therefore it will be better for us to go and live with our relatives in India for some days."

The paper quoted another woman from Jaleshwor-1 as saying that she had heard rumours that she would be compelled to vote. She said, "If I go and live with my relatives for some days then I will not have to face all this."

The seven political parties are actively boycotting the municipal poll slated for Wednesday and the Maoists had warned to disrupt the municipal poll. nepalnews.com pb/yp Feb 05 06

Please try to keep discussions respectful and democratic

You seem to be more used to the freedom of killing innocent people by supporting terrorism. How come you are talking about democracy now?

People who go on to support terrorism and implicitly approve the killings of innocent men/women are worthy to be detained at Guantanamo Bay and and deserve to be treated like animials, because that is what they are. Even if they are out of the camp, the souls of the dead will haunt them till they are alive. If you want respect, learn to be a human being.

At any rate, I am not being disrespectful or undemocratic even to you ( not that you dont deserve it but simply because I can not stoop that low). I have been far more democratic and respectful to you than your mentors have been to each other.

And please ignore me if you do not want to engage in a meaningful discussion. However, I can not shrug off the responsibility, as a peace and freedom loving individual, to counter the moves of terrorists, in whatever form they may appear.

"u see the maoist representing the poor??????????????? "
--mahakaal

Absolutely speaking, no. But relatively, yes. [Note: you cannot use absolute points of reference in these things. None exists.] In the present context, I think the Maoists represent the poor more than any other Nepali political force does. It is not hard too hard to observe this. I think it would be only a mistake to dismiss them as mere troublemakers. They evidently have a very strong support of the people in the grassroots of remote Nepal... mostly the poor and the oppressed.

I do not see much validity in the theory that the Maoists have been able to grow and sustain only because they use the so called 'terror' (or that they know how to use the poor, like Ashu says). I think that they are a major political force with a significant voluntary mass (most of them poor, disfranchised) behind them, and we need to get out of the denial and accept the facts and try to address the problem. Dismissing them as a few bad guys and their agenda as nonsense and hoping to get rid of them by killing them all (the Nepali administration's apparent current course) will be only counter-productive. This stratgey has never worked anywhere in the world.

Bhoonte-ji,
Thanks, and yes, with due respect, I would rather not engage in discussions with you simply because of the incompatibility in our mode of expression. You have been very presumptuous, and, now apparently you think I have my "mentors" (more assumptions!), to make me deserve your unprovoked offensive aggression. I do not even know who you are talking about. I am a free thinker and will stay this way regardless of your threats and mistreatments. I try to respect everyone's thoughts and take them at their face value. I am sorry that I may not agree with your ideas all the time, but please stop thinking that only you care about Nepal.

Isn't it a little bit hypocritical to claim being democratic and shout aloud to dismiss the voice of millions? What ever media maoist used to make their voice heard, it's their choice. They will get their due return for that. But they represent a political power, a political voice. how can one be democratic who wants this voice is crushed?

After being abusive in language and bulling for a long time, someone doesn't want to stoop so low. Interesting ( ha ha ha ..).

It's a nightmare to expect peace and freedom until you want to dominate the world and their ideaologies.

Bhoonte, you talk very sensibly.

There are people in this world who would be happy to see others die for no reason and when its their turn to face the law, they want democracy and fair trial. On a bigger scale, you can look at Saddam Hussein who wants a fair trial now :) On a pathetic scale, look at our own Echoes who wants to be treated democratically :)

If Bhoonte stands for primeminster my vote is for hi,m. Because he loves nepal.

daju bahi didi bhaini haru, manche marne des dhroi huru lai sajha ma gali garera kei hudaina. afno samya khera nafalu. yi dusta huru lai nepali junta le yeti ramro sajay dinechan hamle kehi garni pardaina.

Well said dhara jee. It is just a waste of time to be discussing with these worthless idiots because all they are interested in is killing more people by supporting maoists. We should not waste our energy in talking trash to them because they will be dealth with properly by people. We should concentrate now on making Nepal peaceful. For that, election is a must and we should encourage people to participate in it.

In case you have not noticed, even people of Sajha , who cared to vote, have approved that the election should go on as schedule if you see on the front page poll.

Dhara 127,

Yes bhoonte would be very good candidate for PM in the present context...lol....

but if he stands i will not be surprised if he gets only 2 votes.. best of luck

<<<< There are people in this world who would be happy to see others die for no reason and when its their turn to face the law, they want democracy and fair trial. On a bigger scale, you can look at Saddam Hussein who wants a fair trial now >>>>

If Buddha is the authority of peace that is not what he taught us. Tit for tat is not conducive for peace process. Being another Saddam to bring justice may not be wise .

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You keep an account of deaths on both sides. don't you?


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Listen to the people carefully. Many idiots who are supporting Maoists these days are requesting them to quit killing peple, even armed force. They don't want more people to be killed.
On the other hand, great minds want rebels to be "crushed". afterall It's not killing.
This very concept of goverments after 1990 is responsible for leap and bound growth of rebels. Now our King is following the same with more intensity leading toward severe crisis.

Let peace prevail my beloved country. ( To make sure that people won't think me as desh drohi and supporter of killing spree)

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3 for bhoonte 0 for biswa! :)

ShriyaK, let's assume that maoist are not for peace and that only the king is for peace. Then , why didn't he respond the truce announced by maoist in last September? The maoists waited 4 months to see if the king comes with some positive mood for dialogue. Why the hell he has to deploy army in Rolpa while the maoists are following the ceasefire?

Just yesterday Maoist Leader Prachanda, in an interview with Kantipur has reminded the king that they are ready for dialogue. The maoists have repeated their comittment that they would accept any outcome of constituent assembly election held under the supervision of UN. So, if the king has gut, why doesn't he test himself?

Its the king and only king responsible for this bloodshed in the country. The maoists want to put the arms down but this is the king and his slaves who do not want that . Why? Its because, if maoists continue fighting..the king can continue sidelining the political parties and he will get chance to strengthen his autocracy in the country.

The country is not his asset and people are not his slaves.

ShriyaK, you don't have to label others who do not agree with you as "stupid", do you?

"And is election is a must".....what a funny...more than 50 percent seats have no candidates..major political party leaders are in jail or in detention or under house arrest.Many candidates even didn't know that their canidature had been filed without their knowledge....Many withdrew their names..not because of the fear of maoists only but because Kamal Thapa's party wanted because Kamala Thapa wanted his men be elected un-upposed. The Royal Army is the protector of the ballot boxes. So, what kinds of election is this and for whom?

The king took election as his personal issue of his prestige and his slaves are determined to conduct the election to fulfil the "raj hath" and they don't really care whether there are candidates or voters or not...Who cares?

Once_in_a_while...
I am not Guru of Poltics. But, whatever you mention above is reality of Nepal. No Body care about Nepalese people, so we need some new system other than autocracy, democarcy and maoist. Do you have any idea? coz we need solution rather than talking who is who....I am very frustrated with king arrogrant, parties selfishness and maoist attacking to even general people...what we do about it ? Let us do brainstroming about this problem so anyone of us, could provide new idea to Nepal. Right now I am blank...I don't see any solution..........

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