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lootekukur
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Posted on 06-03-08 10:27
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She will, reports AP, when the Tuesday's dust settles tonight with the final round of primaries in MT and SD. ReadA report from 'USA Today'
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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 06-03-08 2:14
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Bikash KC - And your point is? She can go on denying for as long as she wants. Barring Obama getting pushed off a cliff by some nut-case of a reverend or being assassinated by a
disgruntled Palestinian, the nomination is his.
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nepali man6e
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Posted on 06-03-08 2:16
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Thank you everyone. If he has the 2118 delegates needed for nomination, undoubtedly he is the democratic nominee for the election, and Hillary should stop rather than going to convention. But when i posted my views, i did not have the information abt the other candidate reaching 2118. she should be fighting till the last moment and not getting self-dropped-out, jsut as Huckabee did. I know McCain has lots of demerits, defects and shortcomings. and the next-Bush image has even more detrimental effect on him. But I think at this moment of exigency, he is the person whom US needs at present. Obama might have better plans for US than McCain. Bush government was a failure, but do you think success would come if US run-away from Iraq tomorrow. I am a little more skeptical if Obama would take us out from this scenario at lower cost.
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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 06-03-08 2:26
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Posted on 06-03-08 2:27
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To call Obama a muslim is a intellectual laziness. Its too easy to go that route and too easy to ignore the obvious fact that he is not a muslim. People can disagree with his policies but to blatantly repeat the fact that has been clearly refuted is taking the easy way out...he wore a I believe a Somalian garb but just because you eat Chinese everyday does not make you Chinese nor does wearing kimono once for whatever reason make a woman non-Japanese woman a Japanese.
If you don't like his tax policy, thats fine. Or his foreign policy fine but simply to forcefully keep on repeating something completely untrue about his belief is a simple bigotry.
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Himalaya178
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Posted on 06-03-08 2:28
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BREAKING NEWS: Clinton tells N.Y. lawmakers she's open to being Obama's VP candidate
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rein
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Posted on 06-03-08 2:34
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There are people who say Obama is a muslim. And there are people who deny that. And why are these important ? Can't a mulsim/hindu/Buddhist be a president ? Why people talk such BS in 21st century ?
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Poon-Hill
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Posted on 06-03-08 2:36
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Really??? She said she is open for VP???
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Himalaya178
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Posted on 06-03-08 2:41
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poonhill...yes and Its a breaking news
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Posted on 06-03-08 3:05
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I don't think Obama will pick Clinton as the nominee though. But, its politics--anything can happen.
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Posted on 06-03-08 5:12
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obama should pick hillary for that dream ticket. i think he'll be pressured by the party. she commands huge leads over him amongst latina and the elderly and he has never ruled out not having her as his running mate. together they will be a very strong democratic team and beat mccain. even though bill-hill ganged up against obama and obama had his own problems with them, i think they'll put all differences aside. this is politics and they'll fight for it. i'm all for the dream ticket. hillary wants it. obama needs it.
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Posted on 06-03-08 5:39
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Guest4, why not dude????that issue has been raised previously and i m positive about it.
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Posted on 06-03-08 6:51
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i am having a hard time deciding between obama and mcccain. i don't think clinton will get the primary. i did like mcccain in the past but nowadays it seems like we will just have third bush presidency if he gets elected. i really do not know much about obama either. no facts on how he is going to do things. he sure can give a speech and a vision.
for a change, i am leaning towards obama. this is will be my first time voting. at least i will get to see what voting is all about.
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Posted on 06-03-08 7:53
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elusivecat, There are so many reasons for Obama to not to choose Clinton as VP, but apparently there is a back room deal going on regarding this issue. Clinton campaign wants VP offered to her, but Obama campaign willing only if she refuses it. Quite possibly, she may end up in Supreme Court though.
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bikash kc
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Posted on 06-04-08 1:19
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captain
my point is she couldnt have done anything better than what she had done in last night speech after winning south dakota, where obama was long favored
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Himalaya178
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Posted on 06-04-08 7:14
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She is funny...instead of congratulating Sen.Obama she goes " Sen. obama and his campaign team had a over whelm campaign" as if she won the democratic nominee. Still didn't hear the word Congratulation came out of her mouth till this morning. So she does NOT deserve to be on Dream team with Obama...Forget about the dream team she does not deserve any administrative position if sen obama becomes president.
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Himalaya178
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Posted on 06-04-08 7:45
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Now she started doing her homework
Posted: 08:07 AM ET
BET founder and billionaire Robert Johnson is lobbying the Congressional Black Caucus to endorse Sen. Clinton as the vice presidential nominee.
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Billionaire businessman Bob Johnson, a close adviser and friend to Sen. Hillary Clinton , launched a campaign Wednesday to persuade Sen. Barack Obama to offer the vice presidential slot on the Democratic ticket to Clinton.
Johnson told CNN's "American Morning" that Clinton knows about his push but "she didn't direct me to do it."
A day after the final two primaries, Johnson sent a letter to House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn on Wednesday to lobby the Congressional Black Caucus to endorse Clinton as Obama's running mate. He said it needs to be done for the sake of party unity.
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Guest4
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Posted on 06-04-08 9:21
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Ok..she did congratulate him but not on clinching the nomination but on the wonderful race he has run. This woman has no humility!! She was talking as if she had won the nomination. WTF?
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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 06-04-08 9:41
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Talking about Hillary's speech, here's a piece from the Guardian. Obama is pressing on and I think Hillary's relevance is bound to diminish by the day. But enough about her, it's time to talk about the general. ############### Source : http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/michael_tomasky/2008/06/no_shame_no_gain.html
No shame, no gain
US elections 2008: On a night when Obama made history, Clinton's reaction was dangerously abrasive and selfish
The lead story tonight - my "lede," as we spell it here - should have been about the remarkable fact that a black man has been nominated
by a major party to lead a developed Western nation for the first time
in the history of the world. A man - in whose lifetime people with his
shade of skin were denied the right to vote and to use public
accommodations - who is now on the cusp of the presidency. It says something good about America, and I would like to have been able to dwell on it.
But no. Once again, it's all about Hillary Clinton, who delivered
the most abrasive, self-absorbed, selfish, delusional, emasculating and
extortionate political speech I've heard in a long time. And I've left
out some adjectives, just to be polite.
Here's an interesting point for you. Barack Obama's speech,
which featured a long and gracious nod to Clinton toward the beginning,
was posted on various websites as early as 8:10pm East coast time. That
means that Clinton - who didn't start speaking until 9:31pm, noticeably
missing her introductory cue - and her staff had more than an hour to read Obama's speech and see that he was going to be more than kind to her.
But Clinton, who did not post her speech in advance, gave Obama a
much briefer and more perfunctory nod. She congratulated him on his
well-run campaign, but not on his victory, which is historic and
assured. She told her crowd that, though she is now defeated, she "will
be making no decisions tonight." She urged her voters - naturally
nudged up to 18 million, which exaggerates the matter by about a half a
million votes - to visit her website and send her messages, a piece of demagoguery
that merely ensures that a week hence, if she wants to, she'll be able
to say, "more than 10 million of my supporters have written to
encourage me to go on to Denver". And speaking of the convention city,
when her audience began chanting its name, she did not of course try to
stop them and say that a convention fight was not in the interest of
party unity.
What's her game? It's this, I think. It's not merely to be vice
president. Although apparently it is that. I take it she and Bill have
decided that being Obama's vice-president for eight years is the most
plausible path to the presidency. But she did not on Tuesday night
merely try to make a case for herself as a good vice-presidential
candidate. She held a rhetorical knife to Obama's throat and said, in
not so many words: I'm still calling some shots, buddy. You offer me
the vice-presidency, or I walk away. But she has also forced Obama into
a situation whereby if he chooses her now, he looks weak. So that's the
choice she is hoping to impose on the nominee: don't choose me, and
Bill and I will subtly work to see that you lose; choose me, and look
like a weakling who can't lead the party without the Clintons after
all. Now that's putting the interests of the party first, isn't it?
Democrats had better understand what this means, and they'd better
not kid themselves. With any person other than a Clinton, this whole
thing would have been over in late February - that is, any other
candidate who lost 11 primaries in a row and ran out of money would
have been shamed out of the race at that point. Or if not then, after
May 6 (North Carolina and Indiana), when it became obvious that she
could not come within 100 delegates of Obama, no matter what happened
with Florida and Michigan.
But the Clintons know no shame,
and more importantly, there has been no referee who could end this
game, no one who could say to a Clinton, "Enough now." Well, Democrats
have to say it. Now. Enough.
I really wanted to write a happy piece tonight. I wanted to write about Obama's amazing victory
and about Clinton's tenacity being finally tempered by an acceptance of
reality - reality that she'd lost and reality that, while there are
indeed good arguments for her being on the ticket, the person who won
the nominee has the right to choose the running mate.
Obama, after a slowish start, ended up giving a good, fiery speech
aimed at John McCain. And McCain's speech, though flat in delivery,
laid out his themes reasonably well. A race between these two men will
be a race between two people who - whatever you think of their politics
- are presenting substantive cases to the country and asking the people
to choose. That's going to be a good show. But someone has to send that
sore loser on the sidelines off to the showers once and for all.
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lootekukur
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Posted on 06-04-08 1:16
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HAHAHA...totally fooled by the insider's report, ke garne? BC boy! since the fat lady had been singing loudly for weeks now, thought hillary auntie would finally, finally recognize the tune and concede to obama bro. looks like not coming...hahaha...seems to me that she is all up to add 2-3 more reels to the opera until the cops show up just to take their hats off on the deceased hahaha....or may be she wants to be rushed to the hospital to see if she can survive on coma for few more days? but seriously now, what the heck? ########### Latoboy, you want hillary auntie to win just because you think she's not gonna raise your tax? c'mon now, how shallow can you think than that? no wonder, sam is after your ass like anything hahaha.. but on a more serious note, ever gone through their tax policies in real? i highly doubt. it's a no-brainer that there is no 'fundamental' difference between the tax policies of obama and clinton. and here's why: 1) both wans to increase the dividend gains tax rate (it's all about choosing Obama's 24% (max) to Hillary's 35%(max) ) 2) both want to increase the capital gains tax rate (Obama's 24% to hillary's 20%-- which is same as it was in her husband's presidency). 3) both want to increase the top income tax bracket to 39.6%. so essentially their policies are almost similar. both want to shift the burden from low/middle class people to the rich (according to their definition). Obama wants to eliminate capital gains on start-up companies to create more jobs. hillary wants to mimic her husband's policies (more or less). she may have small credit and benefit packages for ordinaries to win their favor while obama wants to make the tax policies simple and easier to understand for ordinary people (Behavioral Economics) And you say Mc Cain's policy is the best among three? Mc Cain will continue with the present Bush tax cut (15% on capital gains) but its gonna expire in 2011 and he will have to get an approval from congress to get it renewed. Understand that most of the republicans vehemently opposed Bush's tax cuts back in the days when it was introduced and getting it approved would be a momentous task for McCain in 2011. (if he wins the general election that is) ########### nepali man6e, she should continue with the race just like huckabee did re? which race are you talking about? if you ask me, the race for democratic nomination was already over few weeks back. huckabee continued with the race just for the sake of its spirit as it got over a touch too early IMO when the race for democrats had actually just started. having come this far, hillary's denial to accept the bitter facts of the reality (for her) has come out to be a shock for people around the globe. initally i could only give plaudits to her spirit and enthusiasm, but now it looks nothing more than a cry-baby fighting with his mom for a toy. and obama's nomination is historical in many sense. you see him as a muslim and i see him as a fighter who fought and defied all odds that stood against him throughout his campaign so far. heck, if you cannot relate his campaign to your own lil path of struggle in this land of Uncle Sam, then i would say, you haven't seen enough of life, my friend. i quite liked mccain until i saw his continued commitment to the bush's policy of war with iraq and relations with middle east in general. you support mccain, that simply means you are a war-monger for me. as simple as that. ###### thanks everyone for your insights.
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Samsara
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Posted on 06-04-08 2:33
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Though I initially supported Hillary, this support has turned into malice ever since the shameless VP campaign began...This is outright hypocrisy on her part and ya'll know how I despise such cats.
Novertheless, thank goodness the war within the Democrat nominees is finally over and we can look forward to the Bigger campaign. And a note from the Samsara to Obama: "A vicious rival who has dragged you through mud and BS and openly says you're not the best person for the role...And whose best hope for moving forward is your demise may not be the ideal running mate."!! Keep her at bay!
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