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bibas100
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Posted on 06-21-06 3:40
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Some of you might have already read the news but I felt sad that mob rule is growing in Nepal. Reportedly some locals beat up Bharat Keshar Singh, a close aide to King Gyanendra over the issue of an accident. Here is what I feel about it... Democracy seems to have taken its ground but with it has come the anarchy in the country. Rule of law has not been respected in the country and most issues are being settled through violence in Nepal. The beating of Bharat Keshar Singh is just another example. According to Kantipur Online, hundreds of people flocked around Lainchaur and beat Bharat Keshar and torched his vehicle on fire reportedly for his mishandling of a motorcycle owner. Kantipur online(www.kantipuronline.com, June 21) writes: Locals at Lainchaur on Tuesday evening beat up president of World Hindu Federation Bharat Keshar Singh and his two sons-Ajaya Keshar and Ananta Keshar. The enraged locals also torched their Toyota Corolla car, registration number Ba 1 Cha 6689. It says that the scuffle began when Bharat Keshar's car hit a motorcycle parked in front of the Malla Hotel in Lainchaur. Though the media has potrayed it in a one-sided way, I guess both the parties must have had some part to play in the accident. Reportedly Keshar started to scold the motorcycle owner on the issue of the accident. Yet, only the two parties involved know the truth. The attack on Keshar was a sign of growing mob rule prevailing in Nepal. It is reported that the students of ASCOL were involved in the attack against Bharat Keshar. They even torched his vehicle on fire. I do not approve of violent means of getting to the justice. We have to rely ourselves on the rule of law if we are to live in a civilized world. Otherwise, we will be no different to Iraq where one might kill others at any time. The government has a daunting task of not going against the people and yet trying to run the country based on the rule of law. Will it be successful? There have been doubts cast over the success of the government in maintaining law and order in the country specially in the new scenario where people have been encouraged by the success of their(relatively) violent protests in bringing down the King. This is a time when people feel that they can do anything and everything. We need to restrain ourselves from going against the law. If Keshar Singh did wrong, we should bring him to justice through the courts. Why are the courts created anyway? I have this growing fear that we might end up inviting anarchy in the country. There should not be violent means against those who do not subscribe to what we believe. In democracy, everyone gets the opportunity to hear and to get heard. And, basically that is the true democracy we want. We want to co-exist together with all the fellow Nepalese. Guilty should be punished but through the law. What do you people think? source: http://dreamnepal.wordpress.com
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ImI
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Posted on 06-21-06 9:57
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Thanks for the suggestion Sidster.you are so nice and intelligent.But i don't need too. Nice way of trying to hint me as royalist .hahahhahaha. dude , i don't know what to say to you.Forget it! BTW are you hiding in your house ?hahahahah anyways thanks but no thanks. let everybody even out with everyone and take each others eyes out.lets go and take ganye's eyes and parachanda's eyes too. Then we will go and take corrupt Spa leader eyes out too who just got clear chit.then Kamal thapa. What a blind country and Blind people!!!!!
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sidster
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Posted on 06-21-06 10:05
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IMI, I am sorry that u took it personaly. I didnt meant to point at u in any way. I meant royalist in general. I dont care if u are a royalist or not. Having an opinion doesnt bother me. And i respect everyone's opinion. I am just saying that ppl in nepal are hyped up rt now and ppl need to watch their arshes. Just like we had to watch our arshes here right after sept 11.
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resaamfiriri
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Posted on 06-21-06 10:09
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के गर्ने?घुस्या खुम बहादुर जस्तो लाई अदालत ले घुस्या होइन भन्छ,कमल थापा जस्तोलाइ घर गएर आराम गरेर बस भन्छ।यो प्रजातन्त्र जनता ले ल्याएको हो,नेताहरु ले होइन,तेसै ले दोशि लाइ सजाये दिने अधिकार जनता मा पनि हुनु पर्छ।जनता ले दोशि लाइ बाटो मा कुटपिट गरेको भेट्यो,सजाय दियो।दुख को कुरा जनता लाइ अदालत बाट न्याय पाइन्छ भन्ने कुरामा बिश्वास छैन।
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Posted on 06-21-06 10:23
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IMI, Whats up with you? Bharat Keshar Singh and You might be living in your old royalist age. man wake up things have changed, its democracy time so Bharat Keshar Singh got cuffed. Could you imagine that he could be cuffed in Royalist days? Man tyo motor cyclist ko Laas gayab hunthyo. Justice is done, now the poor guy who cuffed him is under interrogation. Okay by the way sorry for late response. You mentioned that it was not mob's job but police's job to to punish the law breaker. Wow there you go, why are you telling the mob, the three guys inside the car took law in their own hands thus the mob returned them their favor, aint it okay? or you are still in mentality that these Sree tin ranas are above law? he he ............................. man you............make my ..........
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ImI
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Posted on 06-21-06 10:36
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Ghopachaee, SAD things haven't really changed.With people of mentality like you things will never change .This is no better than shree theen or shree 5 . Things haven't really change.Think what i am saying.And with this attitude things will never change. Say me whatever you like royalist or whatever. you incourage these activities and things will never change in Nepal.This is too shameful. sorry man you are right , people like you who think they are beyond law haven't change and since people don't change .things will never change!!!!!!!!
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memyselfandnepal
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Posted on 06-21-06 10:40
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As per reliable sources: The entire episode was a fabrication by SPAM to bring down Bharat Keshar jiu. The fault was of motorcyclist. The mob (of 3,000) was already waiting for things to unfold!
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Mirmiray
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Posted on 06-21-06 10:53
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मोटरसाईकललाई गाडीले ठक्कर दिनु वा the other way around हुनसक्छ विभन्न कारणले। गाडीमा सवार व्यक्तिले मोटरसाईकल चालकलाई गालीगलौज र कुटपीट गर्नु के कानुन आफ्नो हातमा लिनु र सोझै जनताको आक्रोश निम्त्याऊनु होईन र? भरतकेशर र पुत्रहरु कानुन मान्ने भए मोवाएल वाट तुरन्त प्रहरीलाइ रिपोर्ट गरे त भईहाल्थ्यो। हैकमी शासन चलाऊनेहरुले वर्रवादै पार्यो नेपाललाई। देशभित्रै दुईवटा नेपाल चिरेर जनतादेखिको अर्को नेपालमा वस्नेहरुले सखाप पारे नेपाललाई। यो भन्नपर्दा दुख लाग्छ कि त्यस्तालाई सख्तभन्दा सख्त सजाय हुनपर्छ, तर नेपालीको विडम्वना के भने न्यायपालिका पनि सामन्तीहरुकै इशारामा र सेवामा मस्त छन। यतिविध्न नेपाली द्वन्दमा परेर ज्युधन गुमाउन परिरहेको वेला र आन्दोलन ताका निरकूँश शासनले ज्यादती गरेको वेला कहाँ थिए न्यायपालिका? सर्वोच्च त सर्व निच रुप धारण गरेर राजाको भजन सुन्नमा मस्त। अहिले आएर घुसखोरी र निरकुश शासनका मतियारहरुलाई छोडाउन ब्यस्त छन। जन अदालत खडा गरेर यस्तालाई न्याय दिनपर्छ। कुनै पनि निष्पक्ष सर्वेक्षण गरिए बहुसख्यँक नेपाली ओइरिएर भरतकेशरले पाउनुपर्ने सजायमा कसैले दुख मान्ने छैनन। हो जनताले कुटन नपर्ने, तर यो शुरु गर्नेले नै यसको भार वोकनै पर्छ। My two suka worth..
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panas
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Posted on 06-22-06 12:31
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Some people really hold the Maoists mentality. Maoists also emerged in the same way. They think they will punish the gulties and started killing innocent people. If law is taken by ordinary people then things will start to be like this.
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gaule_hero
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Posted on 06-22-06 11:31
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THIS IS THE CASE OF ROYALS BEHAVING BADLY. Traffic accidents and subsequent beatings used to be the trademark of PARAS "UDAY HUSSEIN" SHAH but looks like other royalists have imitated that tradition. The arguments from the MANDALE bros on this thread [don't want to name them 'cause they are so obvious] is that we should sympathize with "poor" Bharat Keshar and his gunda sons because they were "lynched" by a mob. Mandale bros are wrong again because they only see themselves as victims and forget that they are the victimizers. (1) The incident would not have happened if those guys had just ignored the little accident and proceeded to their cocktail party at the British Embassy. Instead they ended up beating a poor Sherpa. These guys still think they can break laws - like a feudal lord in the Middle Ages - and get away. (2) Second, even if it was Sherpa's fault [nobody knows unless you were at the scene] he does not deserve a beating, especially from someone driving a fancy car [or was it a SUV?]. IF OUR MANDALE FRIENDS WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE RULE OF LAW, THAT'S THE FIRST VIOLATION THERE. In which country does one gets beaten up for traffic accidents, except in Nepal involving royals and/or their chamchas? (3) The mob didn't lynch those gundas [lynching is beating and then hanging the body on a tree] but just participated in the brawl STARTED BY THE GUNDAS. Remember, first it was 3 people beating the Sherpa. When couple of hundreds arrived to support the Sherpa, the 3 people got beaten badly and deservedly so because they started the fight. WHY DON'T THE MANDALE TALK ABOUT 3 PEOPLE BEATING THE SHERPA AT THE FIRST INSTANCE? DO THEY THINK THAT'S OK? (4) What happened afterwards? The police inspector gets disciplined because he didn't arrive at the scene to protect the gundas from being beaten by the locals. Nobody talks about the police NOT arriving on time to protect the Sherpa from 3 gundas.
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Chatmandude
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Posted on 06-22-06 11:46
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hear hear gaule hero. You are 100% right. Though I try to be objective and non-judgemental, the barkings of "mandaleys" in the threads of Sajha are beginning to irritate me as well. But then, in this virtual democracy, they have the right to be who they are and bark as they like, we just have to ignore these leftover "basi rotis."
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sajhauser
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Posted on 06-22-06 12:02
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I fully support gaule hero.
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Posted on 06-22-06 3:27
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It is the case of royalist behaving offensively--way to go gaule hero Read an update at http://www.parewa.com/newsview.php?id=2500
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gaule_hero
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Posted on 06-23-06 7:24
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Here we go again - royalists behaving, NOTt badly or offensively BUT dangerously. The Ger-shaib living in a fancy house, driving a fancy car going to a fancy reception/party to honor a foreign diplomat feels offended when a Sherpa from Harisebagachol – 9, Khotang district requests him to drive carefully because he was hit by his car. And they end up beating the poor guy instead of saying "Sorry". Even a royal bi*ch was involved. So to MANDALE friends i.e bibas100, ImI, karmarana, what do you think of the new death threats against Mr Sherpa? The royalists and their chamchas still think that they live in the Middle Ages i.e. the voice-opinion of one person, the Raja is the law and they can do whatever they want - and Nepal was like that under Gyane's rule and during Panchayat era. IT IS HIGH TIME TO TEACH THEM A LESSSON AND GET RID OF THEM AFTER CA ELECTION - NO NEED TO FEEL SORRY FOR THESE SUPER-PRIVILEDGED GUYS. ======================================== Bharat Keshar episode: Angadawa receives death threat By Jitendra Sah KATHMANDU, June 23 - The main victim of the brawl between King Gyanendra's honorary ADC Bharat Keshar Singh and his sons, and local people at Lainchaur last Tuesday, Angdawa Sherpa has said that he has received death threats from Singh's men. "If he opens his mouth, we will finish him off," Sherpa quoted the unidentified men who relayed the threats through his close friends, "We are looking for him." "I have remained in my place at Jorpati for the fear of the threats," said 32-yr-old Sherpa, a climbing guide and trainer with the Himalayan Adventura, Durbar Marg. He is originally from Harisebagachol – 9, Khotang district. He also said that he has taken the situation seriously and would write an application to the Chief District Officer requesting security for his life and property. Meanwhile, Valley Deputy Inspector General (DIG) Deepak Thangden, has said that the Sherpa family was in regular contact with the police and that necessary security would be arranged. Earlier on Tuesday evening, irate locals of Lainchaur had beaten up Singh and his two sons in the scuffle that erupted after Singh's car hit Sherpa's motorcycle in front of Hotel Malla. The irate mass had also torched Singh's car. On Thursday, Sherpa, who claimed he was injured by the beatings of Singh, his sons and daughter-in-law, filed a complaint against the Singh family at the Sorhakhutte Ward Police Office. Saying that he was feeling dizzy, feverish and had throat problems after the incident, he also sought compensation and a public apology from the Singh family over the incident. According to Sherpa, Singh’s car, which was behind his bike stepped on his leg on Tuesday evening. "I was beaten up by the Singh family when I requested them to drive carefully," he said. Police Headquarters on Thursday formed a three-member committee headed by DIG Ravi Shrestha to investigate the incident. SSP Krishna Bahadur Rana of the Crime Investigation Department and SP Keshav Adhikari of the Valley Crime Branch are the members of the committee. The committee has been ordered to submit its report "at the earliest."
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Posted on 06-23-06 8:59
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Gaule hero, don't try to act smart ok!! calling other people madale! ok i think you can say whatever you want but i do not consider people like you who resort violence a human being.So may be inyour term by unsupporting mob might be favoring madale .It is your corrupted and mob mind feels that way then be it .i don't give a FuC%!!Don't think you are hero because bunch of likeminded people like you and enjoy throwing stones in hospitals and burining tires in the street. Ya!! you guys rule. All the mob menatality and who favors voilence win .You guys proved it cause your guru ,prachanda, is going to be in power soon.Congratulations!!you holigans!!!!
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ImI
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Posted on 06-23-06 9:08
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oh ya you asked about death threats! ok may very well be do i give damn about that sherpa now that you said you like violence and you pefer everything to be sorted out in violence. Did i ever said that beating by shah or rana whoever that is sons was right? Iteresting people just like to give punishment to each others!!!go kill bharta singh! i can say don't kill any body and don't take law in your hand .But are you going to listen !!! And can your irrational brian think rationally , how things can be manipulated at this time.To degrade king and his supporters.I am not saying the death threat might not be true could be or could be not .Who knows?This is all game.
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Posted on 06-23-06 9:43
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IMI i have been reading all your posts in most of the threads and you always claim you don't talk judjemental and think rationally...well what to say.its ..every body thinks that way.. and about this bharat keshri thing..you seems to be defending bharat keshri from your writing..you are blaming hooligans...from the eyewitness its bharat keshri family to start hitting that sherpa....yeahh hooligans are also lawless..but if that bharat keshri family is so much in law why can't they call police instead of hitting that sherpa..bullsht...they are the one to start.....first bharat kehshri is to blame for starting fight by taking law in their hand..
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Posted on 06-23-06 10:00
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The culture of intimidations & voilence has escalated in recent times in Nepal.Even a minor road would turned into a mob fury. Why the vehicles being torched almost everyday even with a very small incident ? Why are people encouraged to destroy their nation's property?? The country is lawless.Moaist, Police and Army(all) are free to kill whoever they like.They don't have to give any explanation.No-one got punished for these atrocities. Nepalese people should be concerned with these acts and voiced against taking law into ones' hand rather than being involved into it. So called Anti-Mandales are arguing that People should take the law into their hand and hang these culprits(Royalist). These students have been driven by SPA-M, they can't decide what is good and what is bad for our country.If they can't control intimidation and voilence, atlest they should not encourage people to act insanely.
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ImI
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Posted on 06-23-06 2:32
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SS47k, My friend .thanks for reading my threads and post.I am not defending Bharta kesar .i am against holigan attitude of his sons as well as 3000 holligans.We need to have good culture.The mistakes could have been any one or the person in the situation could be anyone .If you know what i am saying.Just look at the incidents of the two hospitals couple of weeks ago.Doctors were beaten .how can we control mob mentality? We need to make democracy more transparent so people in power cannot abuse it.It is not good idea to support or incourage this kind of ridiculous behaviour of anyone!
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sajhauser
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Posted on 06-23-06 2:55
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How is democracy going to be transparent??? please bless us with your views.
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Posted on 06-23-06 2:56
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My previous post was for ImI
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