Two articles in the latest Himal Khabar Patrika discuss two interesting issues:

Kanak Mani Dixit talks about the need to start thinking about a post-Maoist Nepal.

Deepak Thapa argues that since Maoists are engaging more and more in terrorist acitivities, they have lost support among the janata, they have also their military firepower and political rhetoric.

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Meantime, CONSIDER these (my observations):

1) After nine years, the Maoists have NOT captured a single zilla anywhere in Nepal to claim as their own. They have gotten what they gotten through a psychosis of fear and terror.

2) After any one of their attacks, they have NEVER been able to retreat to their
fortified "aadhar e-laka". They have been constantly running from one place to
another, like a group of fugitives.

3) Nowhere in the world have rebels of any sort blocked highways and scattered landmines along public highways. The Maoists have done that too. This shows BOTH their desperation and the obvious criminalisation of their activities.

4) Even poor village women (as in Dailekh) have risen up against them.

5) The ONLY technique left in the Maoist strategy is to continue adopting a
"hit-and-run" method, which allows them to kill a few people and bomb a few
places.

6) Their recruitment policy is all about kidnapping helpless school children.

7) NO civil society group in Nepal openly and consistently condemns the Maoists (it's always easier for them to attack the King, Girija, Deuba and others!) for reasons of
(a) fear of being killed, and (b) being left out of the 'barta" game, should such a "barta" come to pass. [Everyone wants claim his credit for being a mediator in this supposed govt-Maoist "barta".]

8) Without naming names, Kantipur reported that three Nepali human rights activists have run away from Nepal to save their lives from the Army's threats. My question:
With no disrespect to those people, one can ask just what sort of full-time human rights-wallahs are these who can't even prepare to be saheed for the cause of human rights
in Nepal?

oohi
ashu

ashu ji,
I am not much involved in politics and may not know as much as the dajju's here in sajha but i think I can answer some of your questions. Let's go with each question.
1) America ma basera nepal ma k bhai raheko cha bhanne anuman garnu tapaiko thulo bhul ho jasto malai lagcha. Nepal ma nai basne lai pani kaha k bhai raako cha thah chaina. Maobadi le kati cature gareko cha bhanne kura news ma kahile pani aaudaina. Nepal ka patra patrika ma aaune kura sabai praya certain govt channel le pass gare pachi matra publish huncha, so no one except the army and police posted in those places know wats going on, or the people living in those places.

2) Maobadi ko base camp bhaneko army ko base camp hoina, jo ki patrika ma flash hoos. Yedi uni haru ko base nabhako bhaye kaha bata sainya taalim garcha ta uni haru. Traning ko lagi ta base chahincha. Aba uniharu ko traning hudaina chai nabhannu hola. Untrained manche le army sanga war garna pakka pani nikkai garo huncha, i would say impossible. So i will say they have base and they have been training for long time, jun kura ko photo patrika haru ma prakasit bhai sakeka chan, sayad dherai agadi before big G.

3) Baki rahyo highway block garne kura, Kathmandu valley lai nai nepal bhanda farak naparne thau ma uni haru definately vally ma aafnu prabhutwa jamauna chahanchan. Every thing is fair in war. Prithvi narayan shah le pani upatyaka ko gaudo thunera indra jatra ko din ma kathmandu kabja gareka hun, rebel ko ni kura garne ho bhane, LTTE le most polulated thau ma bomb haneka chan. Rajib Gandi lai pani mareka chan, tellai kasto roop ma linu huncha tapai ???????????????????? They are rebels and every thing is fair for them.

4) Dailekh ko poor villegers le maobadi lai lakhate, tapailai kolle bhanyo ? Patrika le na ho, jun patrika sarkar ko mukhpatra cha tesko kura ma kattiko satyata cha aafai bichar garnos. Jilla ko sadarmukaam ma ta army le j pani garauna sakcha, Sadarmukaam ta ahile samma sarkar ko nai cha ni (i am not even sure for that), tara pani hola bhanthanchu. Aba kathmandu ma maobadi ko birodh bho bhanera sabai tira testai cha ta bhanna mildaina ni ki kaso ?

5) Tapaile hit and run bhannu bho, tellai guirilla war bhanchan. Read the book from sun zhu on war and u find this strategy. This is the most popular and effective war strategy from centuries, especially for the rebels. America ma kale ko gole hanne lai hit and run bhanchan tara nepal ma maobadi le gareko lai guirilla war bhanchan. Be clear with that.

6) Maobadi le big g or girija lai maryo bhane ta war nai saki halyo ni, Nepal ko tauko haru lai attack gare pachi ko sanga war garne ? Janata sanga, janata sanga cha k ra war garne. So nepal ko tauko haru lai marera khasai kehi upalabdhi hudaina uniharu lai jasto malai lagcha.

7) Nepal ma bhayeka manav adhikar badi haru lai army ko threat darlagdo cha. Saheed hune ichha kosailai pani hudaina. No one wants to die. Not even human right activists. Arko kura uniharu nai mare pachi kolle aawaj uthaune ? They have to live, i think. Yedi tapai lai testai bichar cha bhane tapai nai jaanus na saheed huna lai.

(all the points are based on the experience from an inspector posted in maobadi prabhabit chetra and even my self have bad experience from maobadi threat when I was in kathmandu)

khoi k ho sadhai news ma aucha ta maobadi le capture garyo bhanera
kunni ke ho k. Lau asti bharkhar kaha ko kun school ma baliyo baliyo dekhine student lai capture garyo re ta. Tyo chahi kasle garecha hmmmm

Harkedai seems to have wrote following little bit trickily.

>>(all the points are based on the experience from an inspector posted in maobadi prabhabit chetra and even my self have bad experience from maobadi threat when I was in kathmandu)

I think he meant like this:

(all the points are based on the experience from an inspector posted in maobadi prabhabit chetra and even myself have bad experience for being maobadi when I was in kathmandu)

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Prem dajju tapai le kura lai ali ghumaunu bhako ho ki wa nabujhnu bhako ho, saayad mero english ali kamjor bhako bhayera pani testo artha khulna gaako hola. Kura testo hoina, ma yeuta school ma kaam garthe as a principal. Tya kaam garda at least maile 5 patak maobadi lai so called "chanda" diye ra uni haru le malai receipt diye. Aba maile tyo receipt liyera k garne, account ma dekhauna mildaina, police lai diyera kaam laagena. Ani tyo kharcha lai aru tarika bata milaye account ma. Mero point chai k bhane, maobadi kathmandu ma nai tannai chan, jilla ko kura chodau na. Malai nai kati patak dhamki aayeka chan, yo sarkar le k garna sakiraheko cha ra. Testo dhamki aayeka thau haru dherai wata chan. Yeuta kura bujhna k jaruri cha bhane maobadi ko samasya kasto cha bhanera bujhna tehi thau ma jaanu parcha. Tyo mula sarkari mukhpatra ko bhar ma hudaina. Nepal jaau bro ani 2 -4 barsa basa ani pheri kura garula, basera. Ani timi maobadi ki ma maobadi.
Mero kura sunda mostly sabai le testai bhanchan so daaju le bhannu bhako khasai naya chai hoina. America chodera kathmandu gayera herau ani matra mero kura ko artha bujhnu huncha.

hus ta jai nepal

(I am completely neutral in nepalese politics supporting the truth but no political parties)

prem_dai and others = are the ppl who hate maoists emotionally not by logic or reason.

prem dai, i am tired of seeing you and others(GP, gorkhali dogg, etc) who cant argue with any valid reason and point out ppl calling them maoists for no apparent reason. Maoists or goverment both have their own faults. WAKE UP! RISE UP! and see the bigger picture. Stop calling ppl maoists just becoz they have suffered the voilence from govt. or vice versa.

jai nepal

and my views are same as harke dai's:

(I am completely neutral in nepalese politics supporting the TRUTH but no political parties)

Ashu
The situation looks different than you claim.

Maoists are gaining ground though they have not captured the dist headquarters.
Just one example: the govt offices in Bardiya and Banke have been closed for indefinite period. The authorities have not been able to open their own offices.
what does this indicate.??

Confused bro thanx, yaar, at least kohi ta bhetiyo mero kura milne. Confused broda timro ra mero kura dherai thau ma milcha jastyo lagyo malai. Hulaki bro le thik bhaneko ho. Ashu bro le america ma basera nepal news ra kantipuronline padeko bhar ma bhaneko kura jasto lagyo malai. Yesh bisaya ma aru ko pani bichar janna paye hunthyo.

Jai Nepal

Harke Dai
TApai Lai Birkhe topi Pathai Diu Nepal Bata??

Bhai halcha ni hulaki broda

Harka dai, I liked what you wrote. You saw and felt what we as a Shadharan Janata see and feel.

But let me put some of my comments (FWI again, ma chai america ma hai..)

1. Harka Dai, FYI Ashu ji in Nepal, so far I know, not in US of A.

2. Base camp ma training garera k Nepayo ta Maobadi le, Ki Udaunas na Khaobadi lai, balla po training ko ni sarthak huncha.

3. By blocking highway they did nothing more than putting Sabra Sadharan janta into ANYOL. You are comparing Mao with Prithivina narayan shah? He did for good cause, at least we are known as Nepali rather than Baishe and Chaubise, or may be indian.

4. Now, on this you are right.

5. Guriella War does not say yes to "Hit" Nirdosh janata and "Run" into jungle. You should read about Che principles of Guriella Warfare to know what exactly is Guriella war.

6. Aisma mero bhannu kehi chaina.. Baru Paras le majja ko COmmander haru tayar garera MAO haru lai KHOJI KHOJI KHOPADI UDAYE HUNCHA.

7. Manav ADHIKAR badi ko ghar ma Dollar yesai jharcha usai jharcha why should they go after Maobadi risking their life - Ya you are right "SABAI LAI AFNO JYAN KO MAYA TA CHADAI CHA NI"

Bottom line, either Government has to be aggressive or Maoist has to be against each other. Infact, its not going to be happen anyway.

King : He doesn't want peace in Nepal, atleast not sooner unless Paras will be in Throne.

Government : I hardly believe it does exist. Oh by the way government ta Arzoo maiya le chalauche ni.

Opponents : Don't want this to be settled down, otherwise they may have to go underground again. Atleast ahile halla ta garnu payeka chan.

Maoist : They are good enough with what they are doing, nothing to lose. LOTI KHANU PAYEKAI CHA. Pachi Mauka ma chauka hancha, Gyane ko adesh ma.

Janta : Most of Yuva are in BIDESH and half of remaing are Mao cadres and rest are after Congress and Communist. Janta ko kurai nagarum janma jaat nai BHEDO. Tyasma MA ni parchu.

La desh ko chitta garera maile chai kehi faida dekhina, chintai garne bhaye ma farkinthe hola kyare. Farke bhane ni kasle gancha ra malai.

Harkay Dai,

I do NOT live in the US. I started out as a minor labour activist in Far Western Nepal (in the districts of Dang, Kailali, Banke, Bardiya, etc) after, with no regrets and with eyes wide open, deciding to give up a Wall Street banking job.

Fortunately, I had had a most wonderful time working in Nepal for some years, and, having moved up in the career value chain, I now reside outside of Nepal working on hard-core financing of private sector businesses. In between, for fun, strictly as a non-journalist, I manage to write (for what it's worth) fortnightly and alternating columns for The Nepali Times (on business matters) and, starting last December and upon the encouragement of many friends, for Kantipur national daily (on issues that I find interesting). That's my little verifiably true story.

You see, I may not know much about Nepal (because, well, I was not born in some village in Palpa or Arghakhanchi or wherever else I needed to be born to be taken as a so-called authentic Nepali.) But, trust me, for someone who has been to 55 out of 75 ziilas in Nepal and has friends who PRESENTLY live in 65 zillas, I do know a thing or two about Nepal, hai.

More later.

oohi
ashu

khoi Ashu ji aaphu ta sojho manchhe khasai thha chhaina, tara yo samasya chai taysai
selaula jasto lagdaina.
Mao le khayarai chodne bhayo mero payro Desh lai.............uuph

Mero ta deuta matra prasna cha:
Lau her tahile malai hepekonai hunnu parcha
ra, kaslai matlab nationalism?, akhir nationalism bhanneko nai ke ho?

Are the two most deadly serpents in day to day activities at every level from the highest to the bench mark; this very thread.

Ali Baba just spoke to the Imam of Political Mecca. What follows is a verbatim of the conversation.

AB- Oh Respected Imam of Political Mecca, are the Maoists gone for good as someone in Sajha.com claims?

Imam- Whoever says so is not quite off the mark, Ali ibn Ali. The Maoists are loosing their bases. Allah Alim, the Maoists are loosing their bases. Insallah! They will be gone shortly. These Kaafirs will burn in al waqia (hell).

AB- Insallah! How will they be history?C?

Imam: Al-Anbiya knows. Allah Alim, the kaafirs will be following the example of the Cambodian Kaafirs -Khmer Rogue. They will keep on causing trouble to the Umma (peace loving community of the believer) but Allah-the merciful will defeat them like he defeated the Qurayesh in the battle of Badr, these Kaafirs will be reduced to rubbles very shortly.

AB: Shukran! Shukran Jazilan!! Masaalama!

Imam: Masaalama! Spread the Good Word.

LOL! ashu how many times have you responded to such views in sajha? :P

i remember, long time ago, i was also a victim of not knowing ur identity. keep the good work ashu, and be happy.:)

>>>You see, I may not know much about Nepal (because, well, I was not born in some village in Palpa or Arghakhanchi or wherever else I needed to be born to be taken as a so-called authentic Nepali.)

Being from Arghakhanchi and having made fun occassionally of Ashu's occassional slightly-out-of-place explanations re:his personal life (of course, with no offense intended), I found this sentence quite amusing.

Perhaps San dai should allow a CV section in this site for those wanting to explain their life history, including how many amazing jobs they have "given up" for Nepal, how many districts they have visited, and so on. We would be saving a lot of time that way and may be more columns will be written!

m.p u do not have a story to share? or are you not known enough? what is the problemo?

(no offence)

Confused and M.P.

On Sajha, I am sure you have noticed, I have blown many people's trumpet for long, bringing their various achievements to public light first on Sajha. I enjoy doing that as a matter of genuine pleasure.

But once every two years, it's good to blow my own trumpet too -- in a verifiably
true way (i.e. without exaggeration).

Tetti ho, yaar :-)

That said, I do get irritated when otherwise well-meaning Nepalis, make all kinds of assumptions and then grandly tell me, "Real Nepal bhoojna village jaanu parcha,
village maa kaam garnu parcha", AS THOUGH many Nepalis like myself --born and
raised in Kathmandu but very well-travelled in and out of Nepal,with personal
and professional friends in so many zillas and with solid work experiences too in
various zillas-- have to feel hopelessly inadequate for the rest of our life for somehow not being able to understand the so-called "real Nepal" that these village-born-but-residing-forever-in-America Nepalis seem to understand in an instant.

I mean, that's rubbish.

Little do those people realise that where you were born in Nepal has little to do with how well you understand and interpret the dynamic complexity that is Nepal. Regardless of one's place of birth, it's a sense of curiosity, a sense of adventure, an ability to make friends from various zillas and an ability to engage with them that should remain the hallmarks of every educated Nepali. Tetti ho, kura.

But I digress. :-)

Will be back to talk about the Maoists later.

oohi
ashu

Ashu ji,
Malai tapai ko identity thah thiyena, hya praya sabai bidesh bata hune huna le maile testo lekhna gayeko hu, yedi ma bata kunai truti huna gaye ma chyama prarthi chu.
Kura maoists tira lagda chai tapai, ko gyan anusar ko khasai analysis garnu nasaknu bhako jasto malai lagyo. Maobadi le gareka kaam haru ramra naramra j bhaye pani ahile samma hamra neta haru le gareka kaam chai khasai ramro cha jasto malai lagdaina. Maobadi jaha samma malai lagcha safal chan. Asafal bhako bhaye kathmandu ko Dillibajar ko Batule ghar ma bombing garna sakdaina thiye. Nepal banda dar le huncha, tara bomb dar le padkidaina, bomb plant garnu parcha. Tapai aafai soochnus uni haru kathmandu ma kati samma rahechan. Malai yeuta chitta nabujheko kura chai tini haru le bomb blast garna neta haru ko chai toilet matra kina parcha????????????????????? Tyo pani tini haru nabhako belama, surprising. Jo byakti le ghar ko toilet ma blast garna sakcha telle ghar ma nai pani sakcha, tyo mero analysis ho, kina garenan tesko analysis gardai garula. Kathmandu ma nai uniharu ko presence herda uni haru dherai haad samma safal bhaka chan. Tara politics ma aauna uniharu lai garo cha jasto malai lagcha. Nepal ko politics dherai haad samma India ma depandent cha ra India ko permission napaunjel samma uniharu le kehi pani garna sakdainan politically. But they are successful, and we can feel their presence even in the capital.

Jai Nepal